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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

comrades, the Protracted People’s War against the liberal hive and haven for bigoted chasers that is lemmy.blahaj.zone has succeeded! blahaj has fallen! or at least fallen off.

really tho, i just checked in on their site to see how its been since defederating. that was only 3 days ago btw! it feels like its been a week lol. their daily user count has fallen by over 1/6th since defed. and while this could be attributed to less traffic during the work week, the posting situation there is abysmal. in the past 24 hours, 78% of the posts came from c/196, making it difficult to tell that their instance is a dedicated queer space. and while they have gained ~30 users since defederation, we have gained over 200! its pretty much just 196 at this point.

while its sad to see a queer space fail, i suspect its for the best. i hope all the anti-capitalists there find their way here, as many already have. especially the trans folk there, its genuinely sad that they feel like they have to accept chasers in their space in order to have a community that accepts them. that is the difference between liberal tolerance and socialist liberation— tolerance allows for objectification and marginalization, while liberation demands dignity and equality. may all the blahaj gender diverse who oppose capitalism find their way to c/traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns!!!!

stuff like this are the best “dunks” the 196 reactionaries can manage: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/2042262

pathetic

this meme is weak and displays their ignorance. you cant have a conversation with ppl like the OP. they will just bombard you with thought-terminating cliches. gulag gulag! Uyghurs! hologramodor! no food! purges! NKVD KGB Stasi! free Tibet so they can have their wholesome slaves again! Taiwan is a legitimate state!

countless hexbears would be willing and even enthusiastic to have a good faith, respectful, nuanced discussion about these topics with them. but they dont want that. they want to roll in their own shit like a pig with massive balls. the good ones will find us, or other socialist spaces. but for such a small instance, there are too many scratched and soon-to-be scratched liberals for us to do any good with federation.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

196 has been by far their largest comm since it arrived there, but blahaj was a thing before that. And tbh their 196 is considerably less bad than r/196 (not that that's saying much but still). My biggest issue is with Moss, and they need some TC69 thought big time, but I still wish them well and I hope we can play nice at some point in the future.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

yeah, without purging the bad mods their site is not gonna do well. i hope we refederate in the future when they get their shit together

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also, this is the start week of college for most people which is probably a large portion of their userbase.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In credit to Ada, I made a post on one of my fedi accounts just complaining about chasers on blahaj and somehow (god knows how since nobody boosted it and she doesn't follow me and I've never interacted with her on fedi) she found the post like 12 hours later or so and replied asking me what their usernames were so she could ban them. I discussed it with her in DMs and we agreed that like one of them was just a dumb kid who was being overly personal, so they got a DM from Ada telling them off and a warning to be on their best behaviour but the other one was a real creep who like had a massive go at me and accused me of being chaserphobic for saying I wouldn't want to be in a relationship with a chaser and I think they're banned now.

I think Ada's doing her best but like letting THE chaser "ally" subreddit establish themselves on her instance was an awful decision.

But also that 196 meme looks like something a conservative would have posted like 2 years ago lmao.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

chaserphobic

Holy shit I need to get a gun

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago

Honestly my psychoanalysis of Ada is that she simply is a boomer. When r/196 first moved to c!196 on Blahaj she admitted she wasn't familiar with it. I doubt she would let them on there if she knew but now she's in up to her neck. Doesn't excuse her for not unmodding Moss and getting someone mature.

All in all that instance was devoid of content, had every actual discussion buried by a haha funny about girldick, worshipped NATO and had more chasers than trans people. If it wasn't for Hexbear it would still bleed users due to low quality. Good riddance.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago

That meme is nuclear grade cope

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago

It’s too bad they literally had to bend over backwards catering to 196, their only option was to do that, it’s not like there were other immensely trans inclusive spaces that offered a better option.

Smdh my head

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Taiwan is a legitimate state!

Alright, this is another one of those things where I feel like I only know half the story and so instinctively take the side of whichever old imperialist-capitalist propaganda I haven't yet unlearned. My impression was that Taiwanese leftists overwhelmingly want to not be part of China, and this is partly because the only claim to Taiwan that China has comes from pre-revolutionary settler-colonialism. Which is to say, that Taiwan is a legitimate country, even when the ROC rule of the island is not legitimate, if that makes sense.

I had a Taiwanese friend once. Online. Seven years ago. We were never close and only ever chatted about conlangs. This makes me a certified expert on strait politics who is incapable of having wrong opinions. Worship me for I am correct in all things.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Adding onto what WhatWouldKarlDo said, the situation in China is what it is because of the aftermath of a civil war. After China was colonized by the West + Japan for a hundred years, the Chinese people overthrew them all along with the Qing dynasty. But there was fighting over who should replace them: the Kuomintang or the Communist Party of China. The CPC eventually won, but the KMT refused defeat and retreated to Taiwan, where they still claim to be the legitimate government of all of China and have never signed any peace treaties to end the war (it's technically still ongoing).

To make another USA analogy, it'd be as if the Confederates fled to Puerto Rico after the American civil war and never gave up hope for ruling over the whole country.

(ofc this is a simplification; there are other parties besides these two and a lot more happened that I didn't mention like how the KMT ruled over China for a little while. This is just the gist of it)

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago

And the kmt was originally a socialist party, it's why both Taiwan and the mainland still revere Sun Yat-sen. The KMT got taken over by a bunch of liberals though which purged the left and they all went to the communists

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago

Even if that were completely true, the island of Taiwan has been under the rule of mainland China since 1683. That's longer than the existence of the United States. This would be like if the CSA had occupied an island off the coast of the USA, and Britain had guaranteed their independence instead of letting the US Civil War come to an end. I don't think it matters whether the PRC has a claim to the island older than 1683 or not. It's STILL under Chinese control, and the ROC needs to be wiped out. We can talk about whether it should remain under Chinese control or not after that happens.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

others beat me to it with good answers but i just wanted to add that when the KMT nationalists left mainland China for Taiwan, the Han that were already there were treated as second-class citizens, and while workers and peasants in the PRC saw their material conditions improve and political power grow, the workers and peasants in Taiwan saw more exploitation. and the already-oppressed indigenous people of Taiwan faced genocide and brutal suppression worse than that of the dynasties or pre-civil war ROC

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (4 children)

what's the point in keeping up with their activity - weren't we already aware that our site activity outweighs most instances.

first it was two weeks of Beehaw updates post-defederation now we're entering the age of Blahaj debord-tired

I don't wanna see another post about any instance that de-federated from us, I don't care about their lame asses - I only want to see posts about communism. all of us need to start posting more about Marx and less about Blahaj/other liberal instances or I will have to start taking names for my yearly 'worst communist' rankings

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think web traffic and posting quantity is a good measure of the success of an LGBT+ forum.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago

When all that remaining traffic and posting is being localized into something like 196 it does.

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