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I'm sure this person was joking, but this kind of thing really is one of the most infuriating parts of getting older... I'm having flashbacks to a conversation I had with someone who thought that Johnny Cash wrote the song Hurt and that Nine Inch Nails were a relatively unknown band who had covered it
The aspect of this that really bugs me is that people never get how revolutionary something was. Like taking your example of music, people listen to songs by The Beatles or Nirvana or David Bowie and think "Their fine, but I don't know what's so great about them - 100 other bands sound the same." But the thing is, at the time, no other bands sounded the same, they were just copied like crazy.
You see it with movies, too. Gone With The Wind, Citizen Kane, Double Indemnity, Blade Runner - all really good movies in their own right, but putting them in the context of the movies of the time shows how influential they were. All highly copied afterwards.
I don't think the Beatles are bad because many others copied their style, I just think that, besides for a few specific songs, I don't really like their style.
Oh, that's fine, music is subjective. I think Jimmy Hendrix was an amazing musician who could make a guitar do anyone he wanted, but I don't enjoy a lot of what he choose to do with one. My point is issue is that it's hard for us to understand how influential something was if we weren't around when it came out. All the cliches started with something that did it first.
It's called "shifting baselines."
I have a 12-year-old stepbrother whose friends like me too so they often tag along when we hang out. I've had them say "That's the guy/thing from Fortnite!" (Or other random games) so many times. I've had to explain several times that everything in that game is from other popular games, movies etc. (As far as I know, never played it myself).
It's fine when it's some random old meme or viral thing that I wouldn't expect them to know, I just see that as a chance to show them what it comes from. They've become fans of stuff like the peanut butter jelly time song with the dancing banana, crazy frog, Tay Zonday (chocolate rain guy) and more.
But way too many times they've said that for things I know that they know what the original characters are from, it's just that they mainly know those characters from fortnite or whatever so that's what they think of. I tease them for it, in a playful way of course, but it does get kinda irritating.
Johnny Cash would have been a nobody if it wasn't for Trent Reznor! (/j)
I've heard there's a trope called "Seinfeld's not funny." It's named after the idea that a lot of people who watch Seinfeld today think its jokes are overdone or cliche, not realizing that the reason they're overdone now is because they were popularized by the show.
More generally, it refers to works that are seen as cliche nowadays by people who didn't grow up with them, but were actually the ones to start the trend in the first place, when it was new and innovative.
Flashbacks from way back yesterday? Because there was just a huge thread about that yesterday on Lemmy.
Crazy how dated this discussion is already.
The conversation I had about it was probably 10 years ago lol but it's nice to know it's still an ongoing debate
This is the third time I've seen exactly this referenced on Lemmy. Is this becoming a thing? I feel like this is becoming a thing.
THEY’RE TAKING THE HOBBITS TO ISENGARD
Gard gard gard g-gard
The hobbits, the hobbits, the hobbits, the hobbits
To Isengard! To Isengard!
THEY'RE TAKING THE HOMEBOYS TO LASERTAG
You think that’s bad? Watch any Star Wars movie. Especially Revenge of the Sith.
Both AoTc and RoTS are just meme compilations at this point. Nearly every scene of both movies has been memed to death for years
How dare those writers steal memes from the Internet to make a movie!! Somebody should do something!
Perhaps make a movie about it to raise awareness.
Kinda like Citizen Kane. Every other scene is a Simpsons reference.
Simpsons is just a ripoff of some t-shirt maker from the 90s/00s.
Man I was in Tijuana in '93 and there was a short there with Bart Simpson and it said "come mis pantalones cortos". The Simpsons writers must have been hard up for material if they had to translate a random Spanish shirt.
This happened to me with Monty python and the holy grail.
Hamlet too. We LOLed reading it in high school because it was made entirely out of cliches
Tangentially related, but I wonder how many people know "I'm the juggernaut bitch" originated in a meme video?
I didn't know that until I read this comment
bro can you teach me how to gling?
This is a Dodge
Okay lets be real reddit never made original content.
Most of these memes were created long before reddit was even a thing, mostly on random forums and blog sites. Reddit became popular as a repost media platform like Digg.
Hell even youtube had a fair share of reuploads despite being one of the first dedicated video sites.
Forgot about 9gag?
9gag routinely stole memes from other sites.
At one point, it got really awkward because they were stealing "The Button" memes while deleting all comments referring to Reddit. So, at one point, you had a bunch of rainbow memes show up and no one could give the real reason why.
This is like that maga cunt complaining about the clothing brand Nirvana
Or RATM being political.
The Beatles are so derivative, they just take popular rhythms and made a song with it.
Since I've never seen either, I always thought the one does not simply thing came from game of thrones. Today I learned.
It is Ned Stark that says it, although he was known as Boramir at the time.
It's said by Sean Bean, who would later go on to star in Game of Thrones.
What about the LOTR books?
Nope. Two things:
First: I was raised in a whacko religious cult that forbade reading novels of any kind.
Second: While I eventually got out of that nonsense and started reading, I've always had an irrational aversion to fantasy and period fiction like the kind with Victorian costumes and pretentious language. Lord of the Rings never appealed to me. I preferred reading early to mid twentieth century stuff like Steinbeck.
The Princess Bride was like that for me.
Conceivable
You keep using that word. I believe it means exactly what you think it means.
lol!
I can easily summarize the events up ‘till now.
ORLY?
Thats kinda how I felt when I played MGR:revengance