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[–] [email protected] 135 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Wow. Made it 42 years and thought "I need to murder a child"

[–] [email protected] 59 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

To be fair, it was a toddler.

/s in case that wasn't obvious.

Also, "possible hate crime"? It clearly was. Getting really tired of these bullshit headlines that don't actually say what happened. The "alleged" for the crime since they haven't been convicted is already in the headline, that's fine, I get he legal distinction there, but then say what's actually alleged and don't try to hide the reality of what's alleged. This is clearly a hate crime, there's no question of that. It's not an alleged possible hate crime, it's just an alleged hate crime.

According to a press release from the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), the mother appeared to be visibly Muslim, as she was wearing a hijab and modest swimwear to the pool at the time of the incident.

Police said Wolf also asked the mother if two of the children in the pool were hers before allegedly attempting to grab one of them, a 6-year-old boy, who was able to get away.

Wolf also allegedly snatched the mother’s headscarf off while she tried to save her daughter and beat her with it, according to CAIR.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (8 children)

She was charged with attempted capital murder and injury to a child. ... The Euless Police Department has recommended that the incident be considered a hate crime and the Tarrant County District Attorney’s Office is currently investigating it

"Alleged" is what the DA has charged.

"Possible" is what the DA might add to the charges.

The opinions of the reporter, who is not a lawyer much less a prosecutor, are not helpful.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

It's a CYA thing.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Publishers have to use the walking on eggshells language even when it’s obvious what happened because of libel laws. You’re not guilty until convicted in a court of law. Until that point, everything is allegedly, possibly, appears to be.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Wow, nothing deniable about that at all

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

In that kind of mindset, it's not "child", it's "human animal".

[–] [email protected] 64 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This happened in Texas?

I’m amazed she was even arrested. I’m assuming a full pardon with an apology will be forthcoming.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

She wasn't successful in killing the child, so no, no pardon from Abbott. He only pardons actual convicted killers of hate crimes.

https://www.texastribune.org/2024/05/16/daniel-perry-greg-abbott-pardon/

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Nah. In Texas all she has to do is say that God told her to do it, and she'll get a couple years of taking drugs in a hospital.

The exception is Taylor Parker because she killed an ~unborn~ child, and that's a damn step too far.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 4 months ago (1 children)

drown 3 year old ... child

That's just being fucking demonic for the public

Palestinian Muslim

With current events, yes its a hate crime

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I mean shouldn't it be a hate crime regardless of current events?

But yes.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (6 children)

A hate crime is when the crime intentionally targets a specific demographic.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

So it should still be considered a hate crime regardless of current events, no?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

The attempted murderer said very specific racist things while trying to drown the child.

It's a hate crime as well as attempted murder.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This women attempted murder after confirming the mother was Palestinian. Textbook hate crime.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I don't think it's that deep. She saw a hijab and went full hate, nothing specifically about Palestinians, just so happens to be that the victims are also Palestinian.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Same people are demanding to bring the Bible in school

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

"Thou shalt not kill" *

* Only applies to solid white christians. Heaven still available with apology and proper donation.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Love thy neighbour as thyself*

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 4 months ago (2 children)

So we have multiple murders or attempted murders of Palestinian children in the US since October 7.

But pro-zionist students on college campuses claimed they feel somehow threatened there. Clearly that should be more important than actual attacks.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (4 children)

What this woman did was a heinous hate crime. But this isn't the oppression Olympics. There has been a rise in antisemitism too. No need to diminish that in order to assert that hate crimes against Palestinian people is bad.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (3 children)

There is a very systematic and deliberate propaganda effort by many US media, infamously the New York times at the forefront to downplay antimuslim and general racist attacks and overexaggerate feelings of insecurity that do not represent actual danger. As a result of this peaceful campus protests including anti-zionist Jews have been brutally beaten down by the police and fascist mobs. So under the pretense of fighting antisemitism Jews are getting beaten up on campus. But according to the Zionists those are the "wrong kind of Jews" or "self hating Jews" so attacking them is justified in their eyes.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

When antizionism is wrapped up in antisemitism, it’s very easy to see why there is an uptick. There’s no such false equivalence for Palestinians.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Wanting to murder a child I can understand but you're not supposed to actually do it. Wtf is wrong with people these days.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Y'allqueda in full swing in the US.

Ain't no hate like Christian love.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If you don't consider them human, you don't consider it murdering a human child.

That's the problem with bigotry. It makes people view others as less-than-human.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago

Just toss this one off a cliff save the money

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Reading the article made the word possible a lot less necessary than expected.

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Police responded to the apartment complex pool in Euless around 5:44 p.m. May 19 regarding “a disturbance between two women,” Euless police said in a news release.

“Upon arrival, officers were told by witnesses that a woman who was very intoxicated had tried to drown a child and argued with the child’s mother,” police said.

The child’s mother, 32, told police that the suspect, identified as Elizabeth Wolf, 42, questioned where she was from and made statements about her not being American, as well as “other racial statements.”

The Council on American-Islamic Relations, or CAIR, said in a news release that the mother visibly appeared to be Muslim, as she was wearing a hijab and modest swimwear. Wolf also asked the woman whether two of the children in the pool were hers before she tried to grab one of them, a 6-year-old boy, who was able to get away, police alleged.

“The mother began helping her son when Wolf grabbed her 3-year-old daughter and forced her underwater,” police said. “The mother was able to pull her daughter from the water. Her daughter had been yelling for help and was coughing up water.”

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

Fucking hell. That woman needs to be sectioned.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (2 children)

What the Jesus Fucking Christ

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago

My money is on "alt-right" brain rot. Some people actually believe they are in a holy/race war for survival.

Poor, poor bastards.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"possible hate crime".....

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It’s not the journalist’s job to determine that, it’s a court’s job to do so. Until then, everything is alleged or possible.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (3 children)

When you have so much hate in you that you're willing to murder a child, yet you'll guaranteed think that you're a really good person who just tries to make the world a little better.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

She actually needs the DA to add those hate crimes to the charges so that Abbott can pardon her later, just attempted capital murder and injury to a child aren't going to cut it with him.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Hate is an irrational emotion.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

Aren't emotions by definition irrational?

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