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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

Not sure how many people were around four years ago for the original drama, but @[email protected] was a banned user from early on the site's history, and I've seen quite a bit of speculation recently that a current frequent poster in c/mutualaid is an alt of hers due to having a similar MO and personal details (such as them both living in the same city)

For context, u/storyofrachel was an unhoused trans woman, who frequently solicited money from the community and had problems with substance abuse. She eventually made a post bragging about scamming money from users here (I myself was one of the users who sent her money) and blowing it on drugs (with a picture of the drugs in question) and a

bunch of homophobic slurs (TW: homophobia, self harm).
She later claimed that her account had been hacked, which frankly I did and do not believe. She was unbanned but later banned for other shit which I don't recall and am unable to reconstruct from the modlog and came back on a bunch of different alts, all of which were banned.

If there's any truth to this, it is deeply fucked that this person is still here, evading her ban and scamming people four years later. As one of the people who was taken advantage of previously (and, possibly, again with this current user!), people should at least be able to make an informed decision with all available context. If we want this community to function, and I say this as someone who has sent hundreds of dollars to people over the years through this community, we should be able to guard against bad actors who are trying to take advantage of the compassion and generosity of our user base.

Edit: There's an Instagram with both usernames on it, publicly available. It's 100% the same person. Not going to post it because I don't want anyone to get doxxed but yeah.

Edit edit: I'm going to go touch grass now. Anyone who is being willfully obtuse about why I made this post can read it again or any of my other comments in this thread

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[-] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago

God damn. Somehow I missed this one four years ago. Looks like she’s still struggling with life. Sad place to be.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago

I looked over this post like five times... so the "scamming people" is that this user posted in mutual_aid and then spent the money on drugs? And also that they called people slurs once. Am I reading this right? Did this user lie about being homeless at any point?

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[-] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago

Does Hexbear log IP addresses of login attempts? Is there any definitive way to tell if they're the same people?

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[-] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago

i mean idk have you guys never given money to a homeless person who said it was their birthday? did you think that was true? would you be mad at them if it wasn't? aggrandize yourself if you have to, but please break free of the austerity mindset you're fucking communists for christssake

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[-] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago

I've never donated to either user (as far as I can remember, at least, but it has been like 5 years) but I'm not gonna say she should be banned if they are one and the same. I think this post was worth making if it helps keep someone who may be also struggling & is unaware they're likely fueling a drug addiction from giving if they don't feel like they have to. Basically I'm not saying that you're in the wrong or anything for doing so. If they are storyofrachel, then I do think they should probably at the very least, DM you an apology for the slurs and general scam.

But...

Isn't the whole concept of mutual aid centered around giving without a ton of expectations? I'm talking purely 21st century mutual aid and not like, the French peasant 'I'll give you some milk and bread if you help clear the stables' mutual aid that Kropotkin wrote about. Who is to say that the $5k they've received from kind users didn't keep them alive to some extent? Yeah that's probably largely bullshit, and a huge amount of money to have received from kind strangers; but I personally think its probably better to think (or at least, hope) your money brought them some level of momentary peace rather than get mad because they're still asking for help which may or may not ultimately be used on drugs rather than getting them out of a hard place.

I just think shitting on them in this thread & banning them isn't going to really solve anything. I've never donated to either user, so I don't really have a stake in this, but I do think (or at least, hope lol) that anyone who HAS donated to anyone in this comm probably is doing it because they're a good person - not because they're expecting the recipient to be telling the truth or otherwise.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago

wtf is the intention behind making this post, except specifically trying to drive the user in question off the site because she did some fucked up stuff 4 years ago and called you a rude word, because it's oviously not an intervention or attempt to help her.

like is it out of some concern that the people who voluntarily gave her money while fully aware of her situation were too stupid to realise that there's a chance she might misuse it or is it just some way to make sure you never have to see her posts again? because there's a much easier solution than the whole "i just think you guys should know" style call out post shit to the latter:

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[-] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

Wild if true. Do the redacted parts of that first screenshot line up with the original Rachel? Otherwise just a first name is a bit of a stretch IMO

But if it is the same person coming back after, what, three years to hustle four figure sums from a tiny internet forum is... something

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

i'm not sure i get what the "scam" is here. was she not open about struggling with addiction, mental health, and homelessness? yeah, sometimes you give money to a homeless person and they spend it on something you don't approve of, and sometimes a mentally ill person acts like an asshole. you kind of just have to suck it up without resolving to unperson them.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

also, years ago it was pointed out that there's pretty much no appeals process for people who get banned, and the expectation was that you make a new account and not get caught and not do the same thing you were banned for. i realize that this is just an internet forum and it's not that big a deal but like that's a joke of an accountability process that would be entirely unworkable in a more serious context.

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

I’m not scamming anyone. Please stop this.

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