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Maybe the solution is to stay off Twitter, but it's very disturbing to see the normalization of slurs happening in real time on there. White people saying the n-word with approval, the return of saying "gay" as a pejorative, lots of casual racism against Indian men, using the r-slur to describe something seen as stupid. I don't know whether this is a larger cultural lurch to the right, or whether it's mostly attributed to Musk's elimination of quality control and monitors on the platform.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Please stay off Twitter.

whether this is a larger cultural lurch to the right, or whether it's mostly attributed to Musk's elimination of quality control and monitors on the platform.

Chicken and egg

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Please stay off Twitter

What if I hate and want to punish myself

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago

The BDSM community has healthier ways to do that.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago

just do like the rest of us and study Althusser in the original French, that should cause enough pain

or I don't know, build a ship in a bottle

[–] [email protected] 48 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Yeah I'm noticing this trend too actually. For a good few years it's been pretty firmly unacceptable socially to say the r-slur for example, with even complete chuds dancing around it with "oh yeah i cant say that anymore!" kind of stuff. But over the last year or so I've seen people just throwing it around like it's nothing again, and I'm always just like "wtf, did i just slip back into 2011?"

[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 months ago (1 children)

ive even seen other leftists (and not just the stupidpol/red scare types) use the r slur. like, i know you know how bad that word is, why the fuck are you still saying it

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago

My lib Zionist boss says it with impunity, guess they haven’t run into anyone to correct them

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago

This happened in 2020 after Biden was elected. Liberals all breathed a sigh of relief that they could stop pretending to be anti-fascist warriors for democracy, and could go back to slinging slurs. I think it was just artificially unacceptable during the Trump years because it signaled you were Trumpist if you were giving chud signals

[–] [email protected] 44 points 4 months ago (1 children)

One thing I can tell you is that people are a lot more willing to say slurs if they sense that they won't get criticized or penalized for it, and I'm speaking from experience. With Musk loosening rules on Twitter to a point where "cis" is considered more of a slur there than the n-word is, this is not a shocking development.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

hay guyz im seeing a bunch of slurs on the dying social media website only right wing freaks still use, are slurs becoming normalized?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago

I wouldn't judge cultural trends by what's happening on X dot com, the cool people have either left or are spending significantly less time on the website formerly known as twitter, now that it's a project of the far-right. remember that people who donate to Musk literally get boosted by the algorithm

if people are saying it more in real life, especially young people, then that's a problem. I don't know if that's the case or not because I don't spend any time around teenagers

[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Twitter is just full of the most reactionary people possible. This sort of thing is still unacceptable irl

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago

Unacceptable in public professional settings maybe. I feel like the only one who gives a shit in my industry

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

I wish it was unacceptable everywhere. All of my good friends know better, but I've definitely had to do some group projects with people who don't even give off bad vibes but don't know how to be funny without saying the r slur and some homophobic slurs too. It's far too common behind closed doors. Maybe it's because I'm a white passing cishet dude so people feel more comfortable saying that stuff around me.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

i think that might just be twitter, but i have noticed a huge rise in casual homophobia from cis straight women (despite a decline in straight men) in the past couple years, at least in gen z

on tiktok and ig reels, there's constantly a new way to call x group of straight men "gay" without actually saying the word "gay" (and they always claim it's not homophobic)

"fruity," "zesty," "💅", "fruitcake," "closet is glass," "gun pink," etc., the most annoying things you can think of. i've heard it out in the wild too.

swear in 2023 it was like every month there was a new homophobic audio trend. "mmm, this one has a little sweetness to it," "de-nial is a river in egypt!" and the caption will be something like, "when he cares about approval from his guy friends more than his own girlfriend," or "when he says 'sorry' instead of 'my bad'"

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago

"when he says 'sorry' instead of 'my bad'"

Ladies, is it gay to apologize to someone?

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

i think it's just easier to do content moderation on websites and stuff on TV/movies has become more keen on scrubbing slurs, so it's seemed like slurs have been less normalized, maybe?

in daily life I haven't noticed any drop in slur usage since the 90s. People will still call stuff gay or homo in a negative way. I've had the homophobic f-word slur screamed at me by passing cars a few times while on my bike. My coworkers will let loose any number of slurs that they claim to not even realize are slurs, mostly the homophobic or transphobic kind.

Yeah and white people absolutely will say the n-word when they think they're in private company. I've had taxi drivers say it to me since they see a white person and think they can relax their language around me. I used to work at a grocery store around 2014 and older customers would regularly complain about prices and say "that n-word is making the prices higher" (referring to obama), like right at me at the register.

The USA is a fascist country and every new person I meet is regarded as a potential reactionary until proven otherwise. I put elderly white people under the most scrutiny. Explicitly, outwardly queer/trans people are the only types I feel really comfortable with anymore

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Yeah, not white myself but a white buddy of mine said some random customer was complaining to him about the new Spider-Man game having an N-word protagonist...wild what people feel comfortable saying to strangers.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

On a Q&A Chapo did, someone asked what to say to their friend who says Chapo uses the r-slur. The response from Felix was essentially (paraphrasing) "if people still accuse us of that why did we even stop using it" and i have heard it twice total on the pod since theni believe said by guests but i can't recall. Strange times we live in

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

a person I talked to once said they couldn't listen to Chapo because of all the slurs and I can only believe people get it confused with cumtown

unless they're talking about slurs for italians

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Cumtown has largely moved away from this type of humor since rebranding as TAFS as well. It’s not completely gone, but it’s not what it used to be.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I mean, did you hear the Matt Healy episode? And they only got in trouble for that one because Swifties heard about it. They were still definitely doing a lot of the same humor.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

How long ago was this q&a?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

i think that was the episode 200 or 400 q and a where they also talked about what fursona they were.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago

Only slur I ever hear on a regular basis is the r-slur from people at work. That's it. I haven't heard someone say the n word in public in a hot minute and I don't think it would go well where I am (a not awful place in the south).

I think that's just twitter lol.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago

It's just that Nazis are 90% of Twitter now

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago

I deleted Twitter a few days ago after finding myself spending a hugely undesirable amount of time dunking on Nazis and seeing absolutely zero engagement for the most part. On a previous account I would get sometimes hundreds of likes- oh that got banned for something like saying anti-white racism is a myth. Can't remember exactly. So it's just a waste of time unless you like to yell into the void which can feel good, I won't deny that.

I think at this point, specifically following Herr Musk's (German accent on that) visit to Israel and subsequent 69ing with the ADL, the Nazi rhetoric and the total non-consequences and promotion of Nazi content and banning of common sense but "woke" to them (like anti white racism being a myth) content is full tilt self destruction, 4chan mode and it's actually just a negative experience overall to be on there. Even if you cultivate a fully leftist follow list, block all the Nazis you see, the Elon algo still places new Nazis in front of you day after day to farm your rage engagement.

As far as these people existing IRL... meh. I wouldn't say it's particularly worse than it has been in the last 10 years or so, but it's probably on an upswing specifically because of platforms like Twitter making it seem normal.

The biggest cucked move by Biden's FTC was not yoinking Twitter from Elon. They could just do it and tell him to suck a cock, appeal it if he wants, and drag it forever. Governments have that massive power. But not if they self-cuck because they ultimately don't really disagree with the Zionist Nazi propaganda on there everyday...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

i have definitely seen "gay" and the f-slur come back, but a large percentage of the time its been by fellow lgbtq peeps, so i dunno? I don't really use them, but I don't see why we cant.

Haven't seen an acceptance of whitey using the n word without pushback, and casual racism against Indian men has always been "acceptable" here in amerikkka, so i dunno.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

Yeah, the other day I posted about some assholes who made a yard sign that said gay and the r-slur in my neighborhood.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

But that's just CCP propaganda! Meta is protecting our free speech, and using our data to train their AI to also be a good ol' amerikkkan boy

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

I'm always taken a bit aback when people at work just go wild with slurs. You have the r-slur getting used just kinda flippantly for so much stuff where they could easily just pick another word, only had one person at my previous job really say it so this new job with like 4 people that use it is kinda disheartening. Also had a coworker use the f-slur when talking to me, they were quoting one of their children saying something along the lines of "X is for ..." but I'm kinda visibly queer so the sheer gall to just go with it anyway was something new.

Then the conversations I overhear about politics every so often make me just never want to hear them since I'd rather just not know how terrible everyone I work with is, it's easier to just maintain that professional friendliness when I don't have the back of my mind screaming 'THEY'RE HOGS BRAYING FOR THEIR TREATS OVER ALL ELSE'

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Listening to Salem and sending reciprocated slurs in my group chats and zoomer scolds can't bully me.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

using the r-slur to describe something seen as stupid.

...re-publican?..

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

White people saying the n-word with approval

Normally this doesn’t bother me or the black people i know because most of the white kids saying it around here grew up in the same environments as us and everyone knows who’s real and who’s a racist asshole.

But nowadays streamer culture has basically forgone all this and just let everybody do everything for views. Adin Ross type e-celebs who have a bunch of clout with celebrities and rappers and everyone is desperate for some attention

lots of casual racism against Indian men

Unfortunately this has been around for a long time. It was around when I was a teenager. Back then it was just “innocent” facebook meme pages trying to be roleplay as some store clerk. Then eventually it evolved into more insulting memes. The population is huge so people inevitably run into all sorts of guys, but the negative stereotypes and experiences always get pushed into the spotlight

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, been seeing f*ggot used a lot

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

People are starting to get really tired of "woke" culture and pretending they're progressive

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

I’ve noticed it a lot on tiktok as well

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

I feel like people even on here want to have their cake and eat it too, so if they can't use the r slur they move to "-oid" type insults and just pretend they have no idea what lineage it has to ableist slurs and instead just do the exact same type of plausible denial excuses that right wingers use.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

They always were. Calling people f*g just fell off ten years ago or so. The words changed but the attitude is the same.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

𝕏itter is Musk’s dark enlightenment, not-so-crypto-fascist, military-intelligence complex social media platform, so no one should be surprised.

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