genuinely thanks for making Hexbear an awesome queer-friendly space everybody. for all the "tankie" that gets thrown around, I still know I'm loved here.
transenby_liberation
Community for trans and non-binary folk to band together and break free from the oppressive shackles of cis-heteronormative capitalism. Or shitpost and converse with each other. Just stay comfy, y'all. :)
Asking trans and non-binary related questions is highly encouraged by our community, but please direct all questions to c/askchapo. <3
Trans Liberation: Beyond Pink or Blue by Leslie Feinberg
Trans Liberation Chapo Discussion
Stone Butch Blues by Leslie Feinberg
Transgender Warriors: Making History from Joan of Arc to Dennis Rodman by Leslie Feinberg
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Transgender Map by Andrea James
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"Don't hang out with these people, they're tankies!", the liberals in the walls told me, and an apparent 90% of my fellow anarchists concurred, "We do NOT fraternize with the tankies!"
Thus I hesitated, seeing the link to [email protected] appearing on my screen. My heart pounded; I felt like Indiana Jones about to swap the golden idol for a bag of sand. I knew that what I did next could haunt me for the rest of my life. Thoughts raced through my mind: what if I ended up in some sort of dreaded echo chamber and became one of... them?
— My stomach turned, but regardless, Lady Curiosity in that moment descended behind me. She grabbed my trembling hand, moved the mouse cursor over the link, and clicked it.
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"What the fuck these people are all gay and based as hell"
Tankie-san, yamete~
How many oddly specific custom emojis do you people have?!
Hundreds
Edit: I think there used to be a github page with all of them, but I can't find it anymore
Before federation I think someone mentioned it in the thread about creating the hexbear mastodon instance and it was like 1150 or so iirc but since we've federated they're being added constantly now so idk how many there are now
They're cool, right?
Very cool!
Hell yeah comrade
Just fork Lemmy if the mods are really so evil? Idk why people get so worked up about the politics of the authors of open source software. If the revolution ever comes, the software written by liberals will be very useful for Cybersyn 2.0
the code is tankie! just using lemmy gives them power! the tankies are in the walls!
the written word itself is tainted by the ideology of sumerian landlords
I've been saying this (not writing it though, obviously).
Give me more of your thoughts, I'm into this shit.
the story of the tower of babel is the first denouncement of globalism
The politics of the authors matters. The politics of the authors sets the project priorities, determines which features are essential and which features will never be implemented. Running a social media site is a commitment. It requires maintenance. It requires interaction with the developers to troubleshoot problems, fix bugs, add features, etc. I absolutely would not run a social media platform developed by fascists. That would put me in a position where I rely on fascists for technical support, where the fascists understand my own infrastructure better than I do. It would also mean that no features which undermine fascist ideology would likely be developed.
In addition to being a piece of tech, Lemmy takes on the form of its authors' politics. Despite them being Communists, this form is a vaguely anarcho-syndicalist one. A federation of autonomous communities. It is a form which allows each community to set their own standards and operate as they see fit. If one believes them to be the stereotypical censorious authoritarians, this should introduce some cognitive dissonance. If a person like this can look at the tech and appreciate the form, but then reject it because "tankies," it demonstrates a lack of understanding about the underlying problems. They can try to replicate the project in a "non-tankie" form, but they won't succeed unless they deeply analyze the landscape they are operating in. And if they did deeply analyze the landscape they are operating in, they would more-or-less arrive at the same conclusions as the Lemmy devs vis-à-vis the political economy of social media.
It's because liberals contribute nothing useful to society but are more than happy to steal and take credit for other people's hard work like the leeches they are.
The code for kbin was completely stolen from a trans women
Raddle it's what was stolen to make kbin
Raddle is open source. You literally cannot steal open source code (unless you violate the GPL, which kbin doesn't), open source code is meant to be borrowed.
Getting mad at everything built using open source because stealing is wrong
*Postmill
Raddle is the main instance of postmill. Also:
Yes, I messed it up, I'm sorry. It's because this time, when I started writing the code, I used my old repositories and snippets (back then, I was heavily inspired by Postmill). I wasn't sure if the project would even leave my drawer, so I didn't focus on it, I was just prototyping. I had plans to organize everything before the release of the first alpha version. This is my first major open-source project, and I haven't developed good habits yet. So I have no excuse for myself. All I can do is apologize to Emma and all the PM contributors. I will fix it as a priority. 👍 - Ernest (kbin dev)
[...] I'm fine with you using them under attribution. - LitigiousEmma (postmill dev)
See https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/issues/196
Also: Postmill is licensed under Zlib license not GPL. Even if, this would violate GPLs terms, as Ernest did not attribute the code to Emma.
TL;DR: Some of the of the kbin source code was copied from/based on postmill, but its an issue of attribution. Some of kbins source code is original, as kbin has features (most notably federation) that postmill does not. This issue also only applies to kbins backend.
Edit: It looks like the license issues has not been solved yet even though the author of postmill reported the issue about two months ago, for more info see here: https://raddle.me/f/fediverse/170274/a-reminder-that-kbin-is-still-violating-the-zlib-license-of
The original post is exaggerating (not all the Kbin code is stolen code), but the Kbin creator used code from a different open source project without any attribution, so for a while it was, to an extent, similar to "stolen code". ~~Last I checked, the issue was resolved ~amicably, the kbin person provided attribution, and the original creator was satisfied~~ (although I did read her say she was discouraged from continuing her project because she would have appreciated contributions to hers, instead of forking/not attributing).
stolen from a trans woman
I fucking hate when people do this shit. Just accuse people of doing shit and throwing out a marginalized group as the "victim" to make their argument stronger. As others have pointed out it's open source, so it's not possible to "steal"
Fuck this disingenuous asshole
EdgyEmma's face when her open source project is forked:
~~What is the source of this rumour? Can’t find anything online about stolen code from raddle in kbin. Both projects are open source so should be easy to prove.~~
Misleading. MinekPo1 found the discussion. The kbin dev had neglected to add attribution for some copied backend code. The postmill dev points it out with links, asks for attribution, gets an apology, is asked if the code can be used or needs to be rewritten, she explains how to fix the licensing and endorses use of the code with proper attribution.
The framing is overblown for maximum drama.
Update: https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/pulls/937#issuecomment-1041941
Turns out Emma had to put a snarky comment, after two months of waiting, in a thread with a Free Software Foundation person offering financial assistance, to get this resolved.
First I'd hear of this. I looked at the source code of both repos (the raddle.me repo is called Postmill). There's no relation at all. Both repos have history going back at least a couple of years. Kbin says in the readme it is inspired - not based on - Postmill. But even if it was, they're both open source! The whole point of open source is that you can reuse other people's code to make your own thing!!!
anarcho-propertarians are a blight
Copy-pasting my other comment:
Raddle is the main instance of Postmill, Postmill is the software behind raddle. Its kinda like calling Lemmy hexbear. Also:
Yes, I messed it up, I'm sorry. It's because this time, when I started writing the code, I used my old repositories and snippets (back then, I was heavily inspired by Postmill). I wasn't sure if the project would even leave my drawer, so I didn't focus on it, I was just prototyping. I had plans to organize everything before the release of the first alpha version. This is my first major open-source project, and I haven't developed good habits yet. So I have no excuse for myself. All I can do is apologize to Emma and all the PM contributors. I will fix it as a priority. 👍 - Ernest (kbin dev)
[...] I'm fine with you using them under attribution. - LitigiousEmma (postmill dev)
See https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/issues/196
Also: Postmill is licensed under Zlib license not GPL. Even if, this would violate GPLs terms, as Ernest did not attribute the code to Emma.
TL;DR: Some of the of the kbin source code was copied from/based on postmill, but its an issue of attribution. Some of kbins source code is original, as kbin has features (most notably federation) that postmill does not. This issue also only applies to kbins backend.
Probably Raddle itself. They're probably not even trans. They lie so much I can't believe a single thing on that site.
The only user is ziq
Their discussion was two months ago, but the licencing issues have still not been solved.
raddle is the place where you go to find people calling r/completeanarchy radlibs tankies, oh and also the dude who runs it with his million sockpuppets having a conversation with himself
Raddle is cringe. Too bad they have good trans content.
Sorry, but could you back up your claims? Also, while dude is often used in a gender neutral manner, alternatives exist which don't come from gendered language which I think are more appropriate, as ziq appears to be nonbinary.
She's referencing this I'm pretty sure.
This is incredible lmao
Fair enough. Sorry, it sounded like a claim someone pulls out their arse, so I was skeptical.
Say what you want about Raddle, but naming the lib bit account 'Chomskyist' is
We liberal bit accounts
Do-It-Yourself community does Cinderella act about the options already out there. Decides to just ask other people to do it for them instead.