chapotraphouse

That sub used to be part of the "reddit left" with a decent overlap with latestagecapitalism etc. Bernie era used to be a good time to "educate" people there about socialism, even if just pointing out that collapse is capitalism's fault.

But given the massive overlapping userbase a lot of those old users moved on, as you know the reddit "left" is a shadow now(thats being generous), so this is just another example of the overall trend of the site. Every criticism of capitalism/US is "political" therefore confined within blue vs red MAGA now.

pre-covid, It used to be a fairly chill place for people who had reached the "acceptance" stage of grief to look at graphs of ice sheet coverage and talk about maybe learning to grow potatoes.

I hadn't checked it in years, but it looks like the depressed climate scientists have been replaced by full blown survivalists and scared normies who think that collapse will be something fast, like a disaster movie, instead of the ongoing grind of people watching prices going up as wages stay the same, needing to hang on to clothing longer, no longer being able to see a doctor, or knowing their children will probably be unable to buy homes and start their own families.

It's scary how many people say shit like "there are just too many people."

Like mother fucker the number ain't the problem, over production of shitty food and plastic, and inefficient city planning are.

if it makes you feel better theyre way less active than here, this seems to be a recent turn in their moderation, not indicative of what 500k people who probably dont look at reddit anymore believe

It's so stupid because there's such a simple gotchya response. You think there are too many people for the resources we have, and some need to go one way or another? Then it makes sense to start with the people that use the most resources, right?

In fact we probably don't even need to get rid of that many - let's just off the 5000 or so richest people on the planet, expropriate their stuff, and that will free up far more fuel, land, water, energy, money, whatever than you could possibly hope to get from letting millions in the global south perish.

Humans are a K-selected species. That means when we reach our carrying capacity we just reproduce less, we don't have a ton of people die as a result. Overpopulation has always been a non issue.

This post makes me think a shitredditsays community might be a good idea.