this post was submitted on 24 May 2024
143 points (100.0% liked)

chapotraphouse

13446 readers
756 users here now

Banned? DM Wmill to appeal.

No anti-nautilism posts. See: Eco-fascism Primer

Vaush posts go in the_dunk_tank

Dunk posts in general go in the_dunk_tank, not here

Don't post low-hanging fruit here after it gets removed from the_dunk_tank

founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Motherfuckers created a rule about how pointing out that overpopulation myths are ecofascistic lobbying is actually "bad faith" somehow so now every post, no matter what it is about, full of "this is why billions must die" bullshit.

There's 500k subscribers btw.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Humans are a K-selected species. That means when we reach our carrying capacity we just reproduce less, we don't have a ton of people die as a result. Overpopulation has always been a non issue.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 months ago

um actually the ethnicities I personally dislike are R-selected.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago

r and K selection models just refer to the relative number of offspring produced each generation and the number that make it to maturity; it's not really adequate to explain what happens when a species crosses over the carrying capacity line. It's also not particularly useful for a species (like ours) that's operating outside of ecological boundaries. Overpopulation is not an issue per se because we can't assume that each individual in the human population is consuming roughly equal amounts of resources, so population growth doesn't necessarily predict resource consumption growth.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

I don't really think this logic works under capitalism and the existence of modern farming. In any case, K selection implies the immiseration of millions after we've fucked the climate and drank all the water

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

What happens when humans are consuming the planet's resources faster than the replenishment rate. It's a concept called overshoot and we are currently in overshoot.