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Every time I see millennials exposed to zoomer fashion they instantly start seething. it's always some 20 year old celebrity who goes outside wearing baggy clothes with a graphic tee and millennials online start screeching shit like

NOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T WEAR ANYTHING INTERESTING YOU HAVE TO WEAR HYPERMINIMALISTIC SLOP AT ALL TIMES OR YOURE UGLY AND WEIRD

Why are you people like this

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I have not experienced what you are talking about; "baggy clothes with graphic tees" describes millennial fashions anyway. I don't perceive millennials as being particularly negative toward Gen Z, for my part I think the kids are gonna be okay.

Are you from some hyperconservative area, like is the mayor also the town pastor and the county judge?

[–] [email protected] 37 points 5 months ago

Shhhh.... they're raging against the machine. Adults just don't get them, man!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

To be a bit pedantic, a lot of millennial fashion in pants are more skin tight (think skinny jeans), whereas gen z fashion in pants are often more baggier. There is overlap, sure. But gen z seem to gravitate away from skinny jeans.

Personally, I'm just happy that higher waisted pants have gotten more popular throughout the years. Low rise pants only seem to flatter the skinniest, most toned people. I say this as a not overweight person too. Higher waisted pants are just more flattering on everyone, no matter the body type!

Edit: Lol why am I being downvoted? I didn't say either of the styles I described in the first paragraph were bad!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

I'd argue nah, cause JNCO jeans were huge when I was in middle school, and those are like...comically baggy. Like the bottom cuff would swallow your shoe. Even with standard jeans, boys showing ankle was a mortal sin, (for girls not so much, skinny jeans were in but I don't remember anything specific against baggy clothes either) and it was a huge issue in the school with people wearing saggy/baggy pants and hoodies that were too big. And this was early 00s, and through high school as well. Some "groups" did the skinny jeans in high school, namely like emo kids, but they'd still have other articles of clothes that were baggy.

I think a lot of it is algorithm based. Interacting with anything is going to start skewing the page, and it builds an echo chamber of "this generation has a bad opinion", when the reality is not so. Everything is driving engagement, and rage is always a top factor in engaging.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't think it's anything against you, just that you gave a personal opinion and so people are voting if they agree or not with your take.

For example, I think you're right that millenial fashion had more form fitting clothing. I also think you're wrong that high waist pants look good. No offense intended.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

"Look better" != "look good"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Oddly enough it's the opposite where I am

[–] [email protected] 52 points 5 months ago

makes strawman

wHy ArE yOu PeOpLe LiKe ThIs

[–] [email protected] 47 points 5 months ago

Sorry your older brother is mean.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Not seen this in the UK, in fact all the zoomers here could have been lifted straight out of the 90s. Pretty much every item is identical to something I (or someone I knew) wore.

Kinda nostalgic to see people cutting about like it's 25 years ago

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

Yeah, the zoomers I know who make an effort with regards to fashion all dress in a very fun way. I dig it.

If I'm upset by it it's just because young people are not wearing the same clothes as me and more, implying that I'm getting old. It stings a little.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I grew up seeing the 90's fashion and was so hyped to wear it and hang out with girls wearing it. Then it died out.

But I worked at a uni this year and it looked (in some ways) more like what I thought uni was going to look like as a kid. But its probably way shitter now so I'm glad I went when I did. You can have your clothes.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago

What are you even talking about op? I've never seen or heard of the "issue" you're referring to?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Here it is: the start of another generational divide fabricated out of nothing

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

My friend texted me that she went out on the weekend and complained that everyone was wearing trainers and mullets.
And yeah, that might be kinda odd, but i grew up wearing baggie pants and spiked up blonde hair, i don't think i have any ground to stand on.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I would like to know what percentage of any generation gives a rats ass about fashion.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think you just invented an issue to complain about. Literally have never heard of this aside from the regular "I don't get young people clothing" argument

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

it always gives it away when OP never shows up in the comments

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

NOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T WEAR ANYTHING INTERESTING YOU HAVE TO WEAR HYPERMINIMALISTIC SLOP AT ALL TIMES OR YOURE UGLY AND WEIRD

I don't recall ever saying this.

I have noticed that millennials are more T-shirt n jeans, and Gen Z is more hoodies and pajama pants. Our Boomer parents never would have let us leave the house like that, so we do have a "sloppy" connotation with those clothes, but obviously the millennials must not mind as much since we're the ones buying those clothes for our kids.

Although, I cannot understand the return of mullets and pedo-staches.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

In the late 90s-00s a good half of the school wore hoodies and pajamas everyday. So it was 50/50 t-shirt n jeans vs hoodiejamas.

I'm with you on the pedo-staches. Ew.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago

the only valid critique of gen z fashion is how it ties into fast fashion, which is objectively awful for everyone and everything involved.
a style is just a style, wear what you want and tell the naysayers to fuck off, but be aware that the things you buy have a real environmental and human cost.
in short: fuck shein

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago

The fuck are you on about?

Gen z are the millennial's kids. The older millennials are hitting their forties now. Not all gen z are the kids of millennials, some are gen-x kids too.

I've never seen any kind of outrage over comfortable clothes by millennials on any big scale. Or gen-x. Hell, not even all of the baby boomers do, unless it's at work.

If you're seeing it irl, then it's likely just parents parenting, which is a different thing entirely. Online? You gotta at least grab some screen shots of handful of examples before this is even believable as a generation level thing. Better, provide links to it, since screen shots can be faked easily by anyone older than about 12.

If you are seeing it, is it on a specific media outlet? You'll find that some are more prone to stupidity like bitching about other people's clothing than other forms of media.

Tbh though, how the fuck can you even tell what generation the people complaining are? Do they give their age? Seems pretty damn weird unless it's YouTube, but most of those are memes to begin with. "I'm 70 years old and I love/hate this" type of bullshit.

I think you're full of malarkey tbh, but if you aren't,I would actually be interested in seeing where this is because millennials have rocked comfy clothes in public for well over a decade. It would be very funny if that's changing as they age.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago

It's all made up media bullshit that no one actually cares about.

The internet isn't real life.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago

I have never seen anyone express that sentiment except as a joke. But also, it's a time honoured tradition to hate everything the generation after yours does.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Also I love the way Gen Z dresses. They dress like 90s teens.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

We're not. I like you guys. Most of your fashion is what I wore when I was a teenager, but with more colours anyway

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

I enjoy seeing the evolution of our fashion all in one friend group- high waisted jeans from the 90’s to the jinco jeans of the early 2000’s. It’s fascinating.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

We don't? Although I do find myself quietly snickering at how the awful crap I wore as a teen is coming back, but I'm not hating on it at all. I'm a bit jealous sometimes, though.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

Weird, haven't witnessed this, maybe it's just the country where you live?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Not going to gaslight you and say no one is making those comments, I'm sure they are. That said, there are millions of people in the world who don't give a fuck about gen z fashion, or who aren't rude, and then there are millions of people who are dicks, or insecure about their own appearance or place in the world.

As a millennial I remember the manufactured controversy between boomers and millennials, and similar comments about appearance, work ethic, etc. Now that millennials are "old" some of them see new stuff coming along and feel compelled to complain. Whatever age group someone belongs to they'll complain about things they see, age related or otherwise, so I wouldn't focus too much on it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Manufactured controversy is exactly what it is. It might have been innocuous at some point. But right now, faced with deepening social divides and class inequality as well as an urgent need to address climate change, I find myself impatient and dismayed with attempts to keep us from union and collaboration

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Because we’re old.

Also because it’s garish to us. It’s the trend we rejected because it looked terrible on gen X

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

what fashion did we start that kept?? no jinco jeans out there, or flannels every where. To be honest I love the new street wear looks that come out. I am getting the wife that fat cat camo from the FF14 line up and she is stoked.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I dunno, I'm older than that and it's really nice to see folk dressing like it's the 80s again

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

The 80s part 2: This time we'll try not to destroy the ozone layer.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

It's just kind of the opposite of what was cool when we were kids.

That being said, I don't know any serious person who gives a shit. It happens literally every generation. Who cares. Wear what you want.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Did you by any chance get this conclusion from Instagram comments?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

What fashion?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

You can dress how you want. If you see a millennial reaction weirdly to what you are wearing, its likely them cringing at a memory of when they wore something similar as a kid. Cyclical fashion trends and all that. With that said, our culture does have a huge issue with fast fashion, and I'd encourage simpler higher quality clothes that wont cycle with trends as often, for the sake of not destroying the planet.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

The only thing really different about gen z fashion I've noticed is barely anyone wears jeans.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Teenagers used to dress so much hotter when I was a kid.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

About the only thing I don't like are the nose rings like cattle and pigs. I simply think "rooting problems" every time I see that. It's a stupid annoying animal behavior, so identifying yourself with that makes no sense to me.

The area you live in has a lot to do with clothing fashion. In Tennessee Alabama and Georgia, in the late 90's and early 00's baggy clothes were popular. After moving to California, it was all women's skinny jeans for both sexes.

I prefer people that are unique and blaze their own trail.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I’m GenZ and I hate “GenZ Fashion”

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I didn't know they hate our aesthetics, and I can't speak for why, but hopefully they know it's based on their own, so they only have themselves to blame.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

What doesn’t suck about gen z? It’s just that the later born the more microplastics and the greater suckery from fucked up grey matter