Games

The line must go up, whatever the cost!

Including lying, controlling narratives, committing outright fraud, controlling the fate of companies through "consultants", changing the definition of Recession, killing of whistleblowers, killing of journalists who help whistleblowers, to name just a very short few.

This system blows, how many millenia does it fucking take to figure that out?

The lesson we learn here is that you don't take money from the mob.

Don't go public with youre company.

Don't get involved with the devil.

The most depressing thing I’ve seen related to this topic. A small team that worked incredibly hard were lucky enough to achieve the impossible, and now they watch without any control as it is taken from them, for no other reason than greed.

KSP's original team must feel the same way

I feel like Sony did a Sony here.

I'm old enough to remember when Sony shipped 22 million malware infested CDs because they were worried about Napster.

That's why Spitz said to be angry in the Steam reviews instead of their Discord. People mistakenly took it as a dismissive whine, but that was actually a very important comment that I feel many people overlooked. Sony ain't gonna do anything differently unless there is actual, tangible damage to their brand. That damage doesn't come from chat rooms, that comes from storefront reviews.

Keep the bad reviews coming if you want any hope of Sony relenting.

This is good, but I think there needs to be some regulations. Companies keep introducing all sorts of anti-consumer practices to fuck over users (not only in gaming land). Now it got (for the time being) reverted, but the trust has (again) been broken.

Consumers (should) buy something based on what has been presented at the point of time. If that changes in the future with negative effects for consumers, than this should get investigated and ultimately penalized. Companies have become too big and too powerful, which can lead to shit like this

I’m not sure ksp is popular/broad-based enough to generate much of an uproar. I’m unhappy about it, but most people just see another headline.

Does that really apply to a live service game?

Like I get your sentiment, and I agree....but waiting for a game like this to die and then going see it wasn't worth it good thing I waited doesn't make any sense in a general way. Like imagine waiting for destiny servers to shut down in the future and say good thing I didn't waste my time. Like yeah of course it does when the player base moves on. The point was to play it before that happened.

Like...youre right...but whats the point of saying anything. You don't like live service games because of the risk of stuff like this happening. It's not like a no man's sky thing where you wait for them to patch and offer discounts

Did the CEO of Sony write this? A bait and switch scam is fine apparently, as long as there's some legalese to protect the company in there.

It seems Steam should have some limitation in place on their end, and the Dev picks sales on Steam, not the publisher.

Then what is the job of the publisher? To perpetrate scams it seems, because seemingly the devs published the game just fine all by themselves to Steam. If they didn't do that right, the publisher suddenly has no responsibility to make sure that was distributed correctly? Whose job is it to ensure the product is published in line with their inevitable goals, we wonder.

so why would they list it for sale in those countries?

Because they botched the bait and switch. And now Valve is cleaning up Sony's mess. Too bad they couldn't clean up Sony's mess of leaked customer data. I guess they can't fix it but prevent the next one by making publishers agree up front that they can't require data from players, in order to publish a game, but I digress.

no one seems to want to accept personal responsibility

No one should have to expect to be subject to a bait and switch scam in the first place. Which is what this clearly is, because if they were truly up front, they would have required the account on day one and had the appropriate region filters in place, so consumers could never be in this position.

Stop blaming the victims of corporate greed and scams; people should be able to reasonably enjoy things they paid for without being molested and exploited. Personal responsibility my ass when there should be laws to prevent this kind of thing in the first place.

and the Dev picks sales on Steam, not the publisher.

Do you happen to have a source for this? It was my understanding that the publisher handled all distribution. Hence the name. And if I'm wrong, I'd like to fix my misunderstanding.