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[–] [email protected] 117 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Can confirm. I'm 38 and I cringe every time I see a remake of some 20 or 30 year old movie or show. Come up with something original instead of going for the low hanging fruit. Also, use less CGI and more practical effects.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Too much bad cgi now days.

Look at top gun 2. I wasn’t excited at all to see it. I left the theater pumped and saw it four more times.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago (10 children)

Top Gun 2 was full of CGI...

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (3 children)

True, what people want is seamless VFX.

I watched Argylle and everything looks so fake. Most of it was shot on a green screen. Half the charm of an extravagant spy movie is taking us to exotic locales.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (12 children)

But also a ton of practical effects. The CGI was mostly there to help the practical effects, the movie wasn't full on CGI like Avatar.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Fairly long set of 4 videos, but this is an interesting flip side of “less CGI” discussion: https://youtu.be/7ttG90raCNo

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 8 months ago (16 children)

Here's what people want... Good movies and good television. Yeah, originality is great, but remakes can be good too.

I liked the remake of Infernal Affairs (The Departed), Scarface, Cape Fear, Ocean's 11, The Fly, King Kong (Peter Jackson), True Grit, Judge Dread, and The Wizard of Oz (1939) was also a remake. The Fall Guy looks good too.

For TV, there's Battlestar Galactica, Westworld, Cobra Kai, Sabrina, and Wednesday, though different, could fit in there as it's still based on another property.

What people don't want are obvious cash grabs.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I don't think Wednesday should count as remake. Also I want to add The Lighthouse to your list of good remakes.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 8 months ago (11 children)

What the fuck is this article smokin? Is it AI?

...of these young kids,

Ok goddamnit, enough with the millennials r kids n shit. Im 45. Millennials are adults. Adults! Kiss my pucker, fucker

[–] Squirrel 21 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

If you're 45, aren't you technically Gen X? My understanding is that the Millennial generation starts in the 1980s, with Gen X being between 1965 and 1980.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

Generations aren't about hard lines of division. For example, if some was born in December 1979 and another in January 1980, they would have more in common than with someone born in 1975 or 1985.

I was born six months before the millennial cutoff, but I find many of my touchstones align with millennials than with Gen X and then I have some that line up with Gen X.

Ultimately, the utility of generational analysis is degraded with pieces like this. There seems to be something useful about looking at how certain aged people relate to events, but trying to ask about "How millennials are ruining the work place for Gen X" isn't a good use of that analysis.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

True, although you are Gen X if you're 45 years old. You're 2-3 years older than the oldest millennial.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 8 months ago (4 children)

:raises hand: Gen-X too please!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago

47 marvel superhero movies is the best I can do, sorry

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 8 months ago (8 children)

Are remakes ever for a new generation? Aren't they just for the original people who liked it, and they hope a new gen will like the new content,, but they never do?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago

They are for new markets, at the moment this means China

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Yes, because it's well known that once a movie or series is released, it's promptly destroyed to make sure that no trace of it subsists. Which is why remakes are inevitable.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Seems like one of those things everyone would say in the abstract, particularly on a survey. Then when the studios go for safe projects and the thing they remake is among someone's personal favorites they'll watch it anyway, validating the strategy.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Exactly this. You see the same in gaming. The amount of remasters of once original successful games is increasing by the year.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 8 months ago

Right now I'd settle for shit I like not being wiped from existence to make the line go up slightly more with some convoluted Producers math bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I wonder how many times in my life I will get to see Batman's parents die? Or James bond play poker? Or star wars get ruined?

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago (2 children)

And adaptions that adhere to pre existing lore... Witcher, Halo I am looking at you

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Same for Gen X. No one wants remakes. Why the fuck do people watch them?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I want remakes of badly made movies. I don't want remakes of classics that were already good. Re-screenings, perhaps. How cool would it be if your local decaplex ran Ben Hur for a weekend or something?

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Matt Damon explains how the lack of DVD sales changed what movie studios will greenlight

https://youtu.be/Jx8F5Imd8A8

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

American audiences are no longer the sole demographic for Hollywood. The audience is global, and high budget films are planned with that in mind. The lowest common denominator is the result.

During his Academy Award speech, Cord Jefferson (who won for the American Fiction screenplay) argued for more low-budget films at the cost of a single big-budget mess. More movies means more types of stories, allowing more niches to be filled. It also creates more industry jobs, and deepens the bench with talent development.

The best way to come up with good ideas is to figure out how to have a lot of ideas in the first place.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Not even remakes.. Remakes of remakes made 3 years before The latest remake

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago (1 children)

GenX wants original shows, too.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago

Uh, most reasonable people want this. Extended Universes are so early 2010's.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Say it to a survey but then when the movies come out the dollars come in for the remakes and reboots

Kind of like 90% of Americans disapproving of Congress but then votes for their incumbents.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

And genX are tired of the regurgitation

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's probably safe to say that everyone does but when the studios are putting down a lot of cash for The Next Big Thing, they tend to want a safer bet like a sequel or remake or part of a franchise. This doesn't seem to be working as well as it was and it is increasingly looking like spending smaller amounts spread around could generate a big hit too but that does need them to be able to spot good ideas and they don't have a great track record on this.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Unfortunately, they'll be looking at things like rebel moon as an excuse not to try new things.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

The conclusion to take from Rebel Moon is to stop giving Zack Snyder money. At least stop him from directing things he wrote.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Movie studios pay unimaginable money to learn what people want. It is a constant, year round expenditure for them. Their information and data suggests that while a vocal minority may be fed up with remakes, people still fervently buy them, have very short memories and seem to go bananas for any shred of nostalgia bait.

Remakes are as a result an incredibly safe bet, they are less expensive and less risk, which in financial terms is a green light. Until they aren't either of those things and they carry more risk, they will continue to be pedalled out.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

False. They pay unimaginable money to find out the least amount of money required to make the most profit. Which means reducing risks on unknown properties, repeating trends that have been successful. So original stories represent unknown risk even if it’s something the public wants.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

If you ask people what they want it makes sense you'll get a lot a sequels.

Like if you asked people what they wanted 200 years ago they would say faster horses, not a car.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

Bruh im so sick of these remakes.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (3 children)

*Looks at Millenials and Gen-Z queuing round the block for the latest mediocre Marvel horseshit*

You can say you want one thing, but you'll cheerfully pay for whatever the adverts in your tiktoks tell you to buy.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (5 children)

In terms of movies the worst offenders are remakes of foreign films for the US audience. Like the Oldboy remake was completely unnecessary and it changed key parts of the story. Funny Games was just a shot-for-shot remake of the original one!

Personally I'm finding the video game remakes even more egregious than the movie/tv remakes. I think it's a side effect of the modern day development costs being so out of control but as long as people keep doube - and triple - dipping on games this is going to continue.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (8 children)

With that though, I'm happy with good sequels to old movies, franchises or shows. Not many actually do that, but a few gems IMHO include Rogue One and Ghostbusters: Afterlife.

Really though, if they're going to regurgitate old stuff why not take a movie/series that had a good premise and bad execution. It at least stands a chance of being better the second round.

Hell, you could even poke fun at the reasons the original sucked and/or make it a twist in the remake.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

I enjoyed the last Ghostbusters movie, it was a good follow up to the originals.

I won't talk about any other good awful version though. There are three Ghostbusters movies. THREE!

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