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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We've known since WWII that armor needs infantry support yet armies keep trying to treat them as stand alone cavalry because that branch of the army still exists.

The problem with infantry support is that nobody wants to do that shitty job. They all want to be in the tank. The giant metal beast with a fuck-you cannon keeps you from catching shrapnel in the face or taking a bullet in the neck.

Israelis want to kill for their country, but they don't want to fucking die for it. Commanders know that. So they tell their troops that you can just get into the giant steel box and feel safe while you roll through enemy territory. Nevermind the fact that IEDs make the vehicle decidedly unsafe. You're sure as fuck not going to want to be outside the tank when a big fucking land mine goes off.

There's a lot of clips here of tanks being hit with RPGs but nothing of a tank actually being destroyed.

One more reason everyone wants to be in the fucking tank.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Extremely America-brained to do "shock and awe" bombing and then send in $6M tanks without infantry support to fight guys with $100 home-made RPGs.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

Money isn't an object to a country that gets billions a year to stockpile weapons.

And Israelis consider their lives (particularly their own lives) far more valuable than the $6M hardware they'll lose in the exchange.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

It's kind of insane that you have people comparing this to Mosul and Fallujah, with a laundry list of things that the US did RIGHT in those clusterfucks compared to what the IDF is doing now.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

See I have the opposite kind of cowardice, where I would prefer to be outside of and well away from the huge high value target. Just staying on the outside of that survivability onion.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

I feel that, but I heard that in WWII infantry was just waaaaaay more dangerous than tanking, big percentage differences in how many people got killed