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[-] NullPointerException@lemmy.ca 16 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

No, because if that dude actually existed, he would’ve been known by a small population only. But that German dude killed 1912 years later was globally famous.

[-] Canconda@lemmy.ca 4 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Jesus is a verified factual historical figure who was executed more or less according to Biblical tradition.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_Jesus

My understanding is that the Romans killed Jesus because they just wanted to avoid Jewish people rioting against Roman occupation. The Jewish priests framed Jesus so this would happen because he was speaking against specifically their religious power (He was not anti-rome).

I subscribe to the belief that some of Jesus' disciples faked his resurrection and started a cult.

[-] AgentSeven@lemmy.zip 3 points 16 hours ago

It seems likely that he was an actual person. It is not verified, nor is it verifiable. This is the kind of shit Bible apologists like to whip out as if it confirms their beliefs. Almost to a person, people who refer to the Historicity of Jesus Wikipedia page use terms like "verified fact" in the same breath. If you're not intending to be a Bible apologist, you should probably take a different tack.

Nobody (especially the apologist) gives a shit whether some rando Nazarine created a religious movement. They were a dime a dozen. And just because one did, doesn't mean he is the Son of God, or that God even exists. There is literally no useful knowledge to be had in pointing out that Jesus was probably a real person, so the assumption will always be made that if you're hell bent on making sure everybody knows he was so totally super-duper real guys, then you must have an agenda.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 0 points 16 hours ago

I'm sorry you're so upset about people correcting misinformation.

PS: There's one useful thing about telling people that Jesus existed: We don't have to suffer smug atheists being like "haha Jesus is fake I'm so smart."

[-] AgentSeven@lemmy.zip 2 points 15 hours ago

Calling Jesus "verified fact" is the only misinformation in this thread buddy. I'm sorry you and all the morons like you believe in fairy tales. The world sucks because of it.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 14 hours ago

Well he's attested in literary evidence with uncontested reliability, which makes him about as unverified as Julius Caesar.

[-] AgentSeven@lemmy.zip 1 points 12 hours ago

haha yes, Jesus of Nazareth and Julius Ceasar, totally the same! As one would expect of a... peasant zealot and the leader of the largest empire in the Western world. Their respective footprints in history, shit they might as well be twins!

[-] Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

Faked resurrection?! Now I've heard everything!

[-] Canconda@lemmy.ca 1 points 16 hours ago
[-] db2@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

Jesus is a verified factual historical figure

[Citation needed]

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io -1 points 16 hours ago

And what the fuck do you think they put that Wikipedia link for?

[-] db2@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

Harry Potter has a Wikipedia entry too.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 0 points 15 hours ago

Now find me one for the historicity of Harry Potter. "Evolution is just a theory"-ass moment.

[-] Canconda@lemmy.ca 0 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

[Citation needed]

Brain Pulse needed.

Like seriously so easy to find that for yourself unless you're an AI slop consumer.

....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_Jesus

Virtually all scholars of antiquity accept that Jesus was a historical figure, and the idea that Jesus was a mythical figure has been consistently rejected by the scholarly consensus as a fringe theory.

[-] db2@lemmy.world 0 points 17 hours ago

Brain pulse? 😆 Breaking out the first grade insults that were thrown at you as a child is really incredibly pathetic.

Try opening a book other than just the one. Come back when you have an insult worth reading.

[-] Canconda@lemmy.ca 0 points 17 hours ago

Breaking out the first grade insults

I have to insult you in a way you can understand or it's pointless.

Come back when you have an insult worth reading.

You should be thanking me since you weirdly enjoy this.

[-] db2@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

You replied with "Just insulting you on your education level" and then deleted it, probably because someone else told you it was dumb. Then your "upgrade" from that reply is this? You're hopeless.

[-] huppakee@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

Post doesn't say the first time someones death was cele bvbration, just the first global celebration. Thought the post was about Christmas or a celebration like that. But celebrating the end of a war makes sense too.

[-] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 3 points 17 hours ago

I've never thought about it until now, but there are definitely different definitions (or at least uses of the word) for celebrate. You might celebrate your wedding, but you certainly don't have the same type of event for your anniversary. Same for your favorite sports team winning the championship, vs any observance of previous victories.

[-] huppakee@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

Yeah i interpreted this more like a celebration of an anniversary than a victory of a match. Looking at it for a second time i also see this could be written about something that hasn't happened yet, while i read it as celebrating something that happened once.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 0 points 19 hours ago

Just in case, the consensus among historians is that Jesus did exist.

[-] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 2 points 16 hours ago

One reason I don't believe internet atheist types are smarter than religious people is because the way a lot of them get when you mention that Jesus being a real person is historian consensus is eerily similar to how Evangelicals get about evolution.

Yeah I went to school with a few of them.

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