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[-] dumnezero@piefed.social 62 points 2 days ago

The US will need decades to recover from this.

[-] shirasho@feddit.online 79 points 2 days ago

I hate to sound defeatist, but the US will never recover in its current form. The US political system is too right-leaning, and the right wing propaganda machine and cuts to education have done irreparable damage.

We need a complete change in trajectory to recover, and left unchecked the GOP and DNC will burn the country to the ground before they let that happen. Nothing short of a French medieval device will do.

[-] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago

We’re not that right leaning, our political system gives too much power to empty land that happens to have a few right wing nuts living there.

[-] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 28 points 2 days ago

Nothing short of a French medieval device will do.

The "medieval device" you are referring to, back in 1792, was in fact a cutting-edge modern era device.

[-] 0ops@piefed.zip 9 points 2 days ago

I see what you did there

[-] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

I will add, even once US recovers from this, people killed by ICE aren't coming back.

[-] Napster153@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

It's the Fall of Rome. Sooner or later, there'll be military crisis as charismatic leaders tear the nation apart.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I hate to sound defeatist, but the US will never recover in its current form. The US political system is too right-leaning, and the right wing propaganda machine and cuts to education have done irreparable damage.

I don't believe its impossible.

Its very improbable, but the sudden rise of democratic socialists and massive support thats forming around them does open up possibilities, if enough of them get elected to power, they could start to right the ship. Get even more into offices, and they could start undoing bullshit and passing fresh new laws, for the people, not the powerful.

[-] Cheebus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I don’t believe the end of our current political system means we all die, it hopefully means the shitheads in charge face consequences and we get a system in place that doesn’t let this happen again.

[-] lookitsjustin@lemmy.ca 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I’m a Canadian but I strongly suspect the US will never fully recover from where they are now. Even just consider international relations - Trump has irreparably damaged America’s relationship with Canada. I seriously doubt Canada will ever fully trust the USA again.

A stark contrast to 10 years ago when we had one of the strongest allied relationships on the planet.

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

It will again, but it will take decades and huge changes on the part of the USA

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I doubt anyone fully trusted the USA to begin with. Its not like betraying deals and acting against friends is a sudden new development afterall.

but I do think, if we can start to cut the cancer out of the country, you would find a lot of the world welcoming the US back, if for nothing else than their own personal interests.. probably mostly as a geopolitical counterweight to china.

[-] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Old people die. Young people take over. What does canadas youth think of americas youth? Those are the only opinions that matter, ultimately.

[-] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 1 points 22 hours ago

Oh to be young and naive.

[-] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago

You're not wrong, but your timescale is. What does the next generation of not yet born folks think about the next generation of not yet born folks will ultimately matter.

I'm pretty firmly convinced the reason it took this long for the fascist takeover and probably WWIII is because it took about this long, 70-80ish years, for the living memory of WWII to, uh, stop living.

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

This is definitely one of the dumbest things I've read today.

[-] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

As long as I can keep visiting Messorem Brewing in Montreal. I'm from a quality blue state and spend a lot of $$ on beer.

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