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If they didn't agree with that then they wouldn't have signed up to be troops in the big 2026.
Let's steer clear of the Clean DoW Theory.
What is the theory about?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_clean_Wehrmacht
stop discussing wether the troops are good or not. just yield to the positively satirical image of dying soldiers saying, in unison, that 'we must save the world from iranian nukes'
if kelly made that comic we'd all call him a hack
Being a stupid fucking idiot teenager isnt plausible?
The only people i dont feel bad for are any of the soldiers who are second contract, you should have figured it out by then
teenagers in the global south are murdered by them for much less stupid mistakes, or even no mistakes at all. the double standard is always evident, first worlders get infinite grace
Youre all still wrong, different material circumstances. If you were this girl, youd make the same mistakes. Thinking otherwise is firmly wrong.
true of hitler too
Yes, but thats a thought terminating cliche. Does 19 year old dumbdumb have the same weight as 56 year old Hitler?
If you're in a gang in the US and you kill someone I guess you deserve life in jail/death. This is how we think here, abrahamic punishment not like Marxists.
Were actually pro prison industry here because these damn criminals need to be in jail and be punished. Not rehabilitated.
You are drowning in moralism
No I think you guys lack life experience and overzealous.
If anyones oversimplifying to good and evil its you guys
No I am not speaking of morality whatsoever. I'm speaking of self-defense. Killing those who attempt to kill you is valid and correct course of action from a purely strategic perspective. It is strategically correct for everyone in the global south to seek to kill American soldiers whenever possible. Your handwringing over it is the moralizing because you likely have some friends or family in the military that distorts your thinking and creates a pro-western bias that you have not yet examined.
If a stupid fucking idiot teenager kills someone while robbing a convenience store, they go to prison.
But if a stupid fucking idiot teenager kills someone while robbing an entire country, they get a medal.
Youre all still wrong, different material circumstances. If you were this girl, youd make the same mistakes. Thinking otherwise is firmly wrong.
Those are two different things, going to Jordan and being told you'll just drive trucks and get free college
Is not the same as murdering someone for like $300.
If you were this girl, you would absolutely be that girl not whatever you are right now. You would not magically be more moral or ethical or knowledgeable.
Okay and? If you were himmler you'd do what himmler did. Stop apologizing for a smol bean imperial stormtrooper.
Is there no difference between a grown man who has compounded evil deeds and a idiot high schooler?
You arent better than that high schooler, you just got lucky and were born white and good parents
Oh right, there's no free will, if you are poor you will become a murdeorus dog and we have to feel pity for the murderous dogs because there's no free will, gotcha
You sound like a republican right now, that thug gangster should be locked away for life for robbing that gas station right?
I'd respect her death if she had died robbing a gas station, not if she was refueling the planes that bomb hospitals.
Its just about how you feel honestly. I dont think your line of thinking is consistent.
Are people victims of material circumstance or not? Do people get deluded by the environments forced on them by capitalists or not?
It kind of sounds like you expect people to fall into a good vs evil binary and that you couldn't have possibly be a evil-doer because you are innately something. Which in my opinion, is not how a Marxist would think.
Don't get me wrong. Fuck the troops, fuck the wars but if we're talking about building consciousness I don't think your way works and is even counter productive.
I guess the key question is at what point a human stops deserving forgiveness
From an abstract and from a practical point of view
Yeah I agree, but I think my ability to forgive goes past 19 year old dumbdumb who joined the military. My ability to forgive stops at being on your second contract unless you have a good explanation or you did something worthy for repentance.
Some idiot gangbanger indiscriminately shooting up a park is forgivable to me.
I think forgiveness is a virtue and a test of maturity, which we are still responsible for acknowledging.
there's no amount of stupid that excuses seeing anything from the last 25 years and signing up anyway.
Disagree entirely, do you not know normal people or is it all bougie white people with nice parents? Youd make the same decisions as her if you were this girl, thinking youd somehow be different seems antithetical to marxism
Meme cos no response and a square is a square.
i don't understand what you're talking about. the emote has more understandable content than your comments
You would make the same decisions she made if you were her and thinking otherwise is magical thinking. You're only who you are right now because of material circumstances.
Do you also think that people who are in gangs and commit crimes are also animals? Or victims of circumstance? Or is it both?
I don't think people here are consistent on their views and are actually in favor abrahamic american style punishment when it comes down to it.
AOC is doing what the unions wanted her to do.
What does that have to do with 19 year old dumbdumb getting blown up with a missile? Can you not tell the difference between someone who is arguably a child or atleast made a life altering decision as a child versus a 40 year old grifter?
Being a stupid (adult)teenager doesn't protect you from the consequences of your actions
Not even just stupid. There is no person that signs up to become a US stormtrooper who does not, overall, think positively of the US imperial project.
No doubt but this line of thinking that you couldn't possibly made the decisions as her is stupid. You guys sound like republicans.
US imperial troops deserve any reprecussion they encounter as long as they joined as adults
'You guys sound like republicans.'
Sure, but i think the gradient of punishment and level of forgiveness extended should correlate with who they are, where they are from, how they came up, why they joined, etc.
Not everyone gets to be born white with nice parents, you guys take that for granted. If you were born this girl you wouldnt be magically more ethical, more morally sound or more intelligent than her.
"There but for the grace of god go we"
I mean yeah everything exists in degrees, but anyone canny enough to make an informed decision about joining would've had a formative experience of noticing the absolute failure in Afghanistan, the culmination of 20 years of the GWOT, and then thinking "you know what, we just need to send more people out there".
Or maybe not at all?
I just dont understand how can you think like this unless you lived a very sheltered life and havent met many different types of people
Evil do be banal eh
insert quote by Hitler's secretary after seeing a memorial to Sophie Scholl
I wasn't aware of this quote so I went looking: