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[-] Goferking0@ttrpg.network 2 points 1 week ago

One causes harm and the other says that harm only needs 10% fixing

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

One causes harm and the other says that harm only needs 10% fixing

And then doesn't fix it at all.

[-] Goferking0@ttrpg.network 6 points 1 week ago

And then doesn't fix it at all.

sorry that has to wait until after next election or we won't win the election

[-] agent_nycto@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago

So you think we should let the people who want to do maximal harm have office. Got it.

[-] Goferking0@ttrpg.network 6 points 1 week ago

The point of the meme is that it is the situation we are in where neither party is doing anything to help workers.

So you think we should let the people who want to do maximal harm have office. Got it.

In the elections since Reagan was elected president both dnc and gop have rushed farther right. We're at the point dnc and dems are trying to run as the party and ideals of saint reagan.

Neither party gives a shit about workers and everytime that is brought up we get shit like this said that oh well you just want the GOP to win

[-] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Bruv, everyone knows neither party gives a shit about workers. And nobody likes the Democrats, not even Democrats.

No one is here saying Democrats are great. I am most definitely not saying Democrats are great. I have no love for the doormat party.

Buuuuuut

The reality of the situation we're in right now, as things are, is that they are, effectively, the only other political party than Republicans. The Green party, libertarians, the communist party, everything else, they don't have any political power. Right now, you might see some in lower offices if you're lucky.

You know, because of the whole "winner take all, also that's how elections work" thing.

And since the Republican party is, quite obviously, doing a fascism...

IF YOU DON'T WANT FASCISTS IN OFFICE YOU HAVE TO VOTE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO CAN WIN AGAINST FASCISTS IN THE ELECTION. (And also do other stuff outside of voting but we're talking about voting and elections specifically here not community building and other stuff you should also be doing not just voting)

So yeah. The DNC sucks. It's right wing while pretending to give a shit. It's still capitalist. It still does war. It's not what you want and that sucks.

But you're gonna have to eat that shit sandwich because they are the only people who are running against the overtly fascist party and winning. They know it, you know it, and until there's a viable third party that starts winning against both of them, until we get national ranked choice voting, until gerrymandering is illegal everywhere, that's the situation we're in.

So yeah. We know they suck, don't care about st Regan, and it's really shitty to hear, but yeah, if you don't want more fascists in office, sorry, you gotta vote for the capitalists.

One thing that you can do (outside of Luigitime or everything else outside of voting we're talking about elections here) is make sure you vote in the primaries. People overlook them and you can try to get the most left person you can on the ballot. Or run yourself for office, maybe you'll win and be the first third party president ever, idk.

But for fucks sake don't be part of the 33% of people who didn't vote.

[-] Goferking0@ttrpg.network 2 points 1 week ago

1st point they're both fascist parties, since post 9/11 at least. Could be argued happened before but post 9/11 really stopped hiding it.

2nd this is exactly what the meme is going on about. vote for the dnc it'll totally be different this time. The issue is with our voting system AND the major parties captured so they only act in the interests of the wealthy. This rant just attacks the voters not cause.

But please continue and take frustrations out at those pointing it out while hoping our dear leaders will stop pulling the football away

[-] agent_nycto@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Ok so what's your solution with the situation we have right now, in regards to voting?

1- vote Republican, the overt fascist, white nationalists take over.

2- vote third party, they lose, either Republicans win or a Democrat might win, though doing that might help Republicans win.

3- don't vote, and who knows who wins, though not voting trends to help Republicans.

4- vote Democrat, even though they suck, so that Republicans don't win. The capitalist, not white nationalists win.

Edit: also never made the claim the DNC would change things? Like once? Wtf bro

[-] Goferking0@ttrpg.network 3 points 1 week ago

It's pretty clear there isn't a solution in regards to voting.

I'd say vote 3rd party but you're already saying that's the same as doing nothing. Honestly you did 4 points of nothing changing by voting.

But again this is literally the meme.

vote for the dnc, maybe this time they'll let you kick the ball

[-] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago

Vote DNC they might let you kick the ball.

Vote Republican they are going to kick you and your friends.

Vote third party, get to watch people play with the ball without you.

Don't vote, get to watch people play the ball without you.

Sorry, but as things are, yeah, sucks, but given the four options...

[-] Goferking0@ttrpg.network 2 points 6 days ago

So again listing how voting doesn't work in America...

[-] agent_nycto@lemmy.world -1 points 6 days ago

If voting didn't matter, why ate the Republicans trying to make it harder for people to vote?

[-] Goferking0@ttrpg.network 2 points 6 days ago

Because they realized optics don't matter anymore/base is insane enough they can get away with it.

It's almost like asking why fast food places are increasing pricing so rapidly while still saying they can't pay people more/raising minimum wage would kill their industry. Just a distraction to help further their goals

[-] agent_nycto@lemmy.world -1 points 5 days ago

You think disenfranchising and oppressing minorities after so many years of oppression is just optics? Wow

[-] Goferking0@ttrpg.network 1 points 5 days ago

Please work on reading comprehension. Gop is going overdrive to do those things because they don't care of the optics of how bad it looks.

[-] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago

Maybe you should take your own advice and reread my question. If voting doesn't matter, why would the GOP go into overdrive to stop it?

[-] Goferking0@ttrpg.network 2 points 5 days ago

Simply because they're racist assholes.

[-] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

They're racist assholes but if voting didn't mean anything they wouldn't bother.

[-] Goferking0@ttrpg.network 2 points 5 days ago

Almost like they're so racist they want to have the lesser races (in their minds) completely under the like back in the good old days.

It has nothing to do with if voting has an effect just so they can put the boot down harder on people.

[-] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

If taking away voting is a tool of oppression, then that means voting has value.

[-] Goferking0@ttrpg.network 1 points 4 days ago

Vote DNC they might let you kick the ball.

Vote Republican they are going to kick you and your friends.

Vote third party, get to watch people play with the ball without you.

Don't vote, get to watch people play the ball without you.

Sorry, but as things are, yeah, sucks, but given the four options...

Going back to your earlier points, you already admitted it doesn't. Just gives the appearance of it. The GOP removing voting abilities from minorities is just to help get them to believe like in the olden days they're superior. Just like having segregated areas it's just to show appearance of power.

GOP doesn't care how bad it makes them look as it may give them more support from their extremely racist base

[-] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

And the support from the base is directly tied to the votes they need to get into power.

I didn't admit voting was useless, the point of those is that voting has power, and you have to choose carefully how you use that power. Are you going to have the sword directly to your enemies, let them take it, or use it against them?

If you're tired of fighting at least don't try to have other people give up the good fight.

[-] Goferking0@ttrpg.network 1 points 4 days ago

Are you going to have the sword directly to your enemies, let them take it, or use it against them

Please enlighten me on who is actually fighting?

Again you've said only the dems are worth voting for. Voting for anyone else is a waste yet dems are happy to leave things as they are

[-] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Would you rather vote for someone who leaves things as they are, or someone who actively wants to make things worse and kill minorities?

Sorry that "leaves things alone" isn't good enough for you and you'll throw all the trans kids under the bus, but personally I don't want Republicans in power so I'll do what it takes to keep them out of power, even if that means I have to vote for a spineless Democrat

[-] Goferking0@ttrpg.network 1 points 3 days ago

Would you rather vote for someone who leaves things as they are, or someone who actively wants to make things worse and kill minorities?

Again that's what Kamala Harris campaigned on in 2024.

Sorry that "leaves things alone" isn't good enough for you and you'll throw all the trans kids under the bus, but personally I don't want Republicans in power so I'll do what it takes to keep them out of power, even if that means I have to vote for a spineless Democrat

And we've come full circle on the memes point. DNC stays in power by saying we'll totally do something this time but do nothing. Including refusing to undo what republicans implemented.

[-] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

We're going around in circles at this point, so tell me what your alternative is, with the situation we are in

[-] Goferking0@ttrpg.network 0 points 3 days ago

It's pretty clear there isn't a solution in regards to voting.

I'd say vote 3rd party but you're already saying that's the same as doing nothing. Honestly you did 4 points of nothing changing by voting.

But again this is literally the meme.

vote for the dnc, maybe this time they'll let you kick the ball

[-] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Well then if it's pointless may as well make it a little harder and annoying for Republicans

[-] Goferking0@ttrpg.network 1 points 3 days ago

Which is the opposite of what in the majority of democrats in office want to do.

Hell this month Obama was even saying the republicans need to be strong.

[-] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

If only there was a way to pick which Democrat you'd like... Like with a primary vote or something...

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