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American workers are tired of waiting.
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Bruv, everyone knows neither party gives a shit about workers. And nobody likes the Democrats, not even Democrats.
No one is here saying Democrats are great. I am most definitely not saying Democrats are great. I have no love for the doormat party.
Buuuuuut
The reality of the situation we're in right now, as things are, is that they are, effectively, the only other political party than Republicans. The Green party, libertarians, the communist party, everything else, they don't have any political power. Right now, you might see some in lower offices if you're lucky.
You know, because of the whole "winner take all, also that's how elections work" thing.
And since the Republican party is, quite obviously, doing a fascism...
IF YOU DON'T WANT FASCISTS IN OFFICE YOU HAVE TO VOTE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO CAN WIN AGAINST FASCISTS IN THE ELECTION. (And also do other stuff outside of voting but we're talking about voting and elections specifically here not community building and other stuff you should also be doing not just voting)
So yeah. The DNC sucks. It's right wing while pretending to give a shit. It's still capitalist. It still does war. It's not what you want and that sucks.
But you're gonna have to eat that shit sandwich because they are the only people who are running against the overtly fascist party and winning. They know it, you know it, and until there's a viable third party that starts winning against both of them, until we get national ranked choice voting, until gerrymandering is illegal everywhere, that's the situation we're in.
So yeah. We know they suck, don't care about st Regan, and it's really shitty to hear, but yeah, if you don't want more fascists in office, sorry, you gotta vote for the capitalists.
One thing that you can do (outside of Luigitime or everything else outside of voting we're talking about elections here) is make sure you vote in the primaries. People overlook them and you can try to get the most left person you can on the ballot. Or run yourself for office, maybe you'll win and be the first third party president ever, idk.
But for fucks sake don't be part of the 33% of people who didn't vote.
1st point they're both fascist parties, since post 9/11 at least. Could be argued happened before but post 9/11 really stopped hiding it.
2nd this is exactly what the meme is going on about. vote for the dnc it'll totally be different this time. The issue is with our voting system AND the major parties captured so they only act in the interests of the wealthy. This rant just attacks the voters not cause.
But please continue and take frustrations out at those pointing it out while hoping our dear leaders will stop pulling the football away
Ok so what's your solution with the situation we have right now, in regards to voting?
1- vote Republican, the overt fascist, white nationalists take over.
2- vote third party, they lose, either Republicans win or a Democrat might win, though doing that might help Republicans win.
3- don't vote, and who knows who wins, though not voting trends to help Republicans.
4- vote Democrat, even though they suck, so that Republicans don't win. The capitalist, not white nationalists win.
Edit: also never made the claim the DNC would change things? Like once? Wtf bro
It's pretty clear there isn't a solution in regards to voting.
I'd say vote 3rd party but you're already saying that's the same as doing nothing. Honestly you did 4 points of nothing changing by voting.
But again this is literally the meme.
vote for the dnc, maybe this time they'll let you kick the ball
Vote DNC they might let you kick the ball.
Vote Republican they are going to kick you and your friends.
Vote third party, get to watch people play with the ball without you.
Don't vote, get to watch people play the ball without you.
Sorry, but as things are, yeah, sucks, but given the four options...
So again listing how voting doesn't work in America...
If voting didn't matter, why ate the Republicans trying to make it harder for people to vote?
Because they realized optics don't matter anymore/base is insane enough they can get away with it.
It's almost like asking why fast food places are increasing pricing so rapidly while still saying they can't pay people more/raising minimum wage would kill their industry. Just a distraction to help further their goals
You think disenfranchising and oppressing minorities after so many years of oppression is just optics? Wow
Please work on reading comprehension. Gop is going overdrive to do those things because they don't care of the optics of how bad it looks.
Maybe you should take your own advice and reread my question. If voting doesn't matter, why would the GOP go into overdrive to stop it?
Simply because they're racist assholes.
They're racist assholes but if voting didn't mean anything they wouldn't bother.
Almost like they're so racist they want to have the lesser races (in their minds) completely under the like back in the good old days.
It has nothing to do with if voting has an effect just so they can put the boot down harder on people.
If taking away voting is a tool of oppression, then that means voting has value.
Going back to your earlier points, you already admitted it doesn't. Just gives the appearance of it. The GOP removing voting abilities from minorities is just to help get them to believe like in the olden days they're superior. Just like having segregated areas it's just to show appearance of power.
GOP doesn't care how bad it makes them look as it may give them more support from their extremely racist base
And the support from the base is directly tied to the votes they need to get into power.
I didn't admit voting was useless, the point of those is that voting has power, and you have to choose carefully how you use that power. Are you going to have the sword directly to your enemies, let them take it, or use it against them?
If you're tired of fighting at least don't try to have other people give up the good fight.
Please enlighten me on who is actually fighting?
Again you've said only the dems are worth voting for. Voting for anyone else is a waste yet dems are happy to leave things as they are
Would you rather vote for someone who leaves things as they are, or someone who actively wants to make things worse and kill minorities?
Sorry that "leaves things alone" isn't good enough for you and you'll throw all the trans kids under the bus, but personally I don't want Republicans in power so I'll do what it takes to keep them out of power, even if that means I have to vote for a spineless Democrat
Again that's what Kamala Harris campaigned on in 2024.
And we've come full circle on the memes point. DNC stays in power by saying we'll totally do something this time but do nothing. Including refusing to undo what republicans implemented.
We're going around in circles at this point, so tell me what your alternative is, with the situation we are in
Well then if it's pointless may as well make it a little harder and annoying for Republicans
Which is the opposite of what in the majority of democrats in office want to do.
Hell this month Obama was even saying the republicans need to be strong.
If only there was a way to pick which Democrat you'd like... Like with a primary vote or something...
https://lemmy.world/post/46484764
Yeah I'd love it if we could get extremely leftist primary candidates on the ballot so people could vote for them. I'm not sure what the problem is, we haven't even been having this cyclical argument you're presenting.
We've had everything but they're not real Democrats
If that's what you think then you haven't even read what I've been saying and arguing against a made up person.
We have the dems need to move left but won't, we'll vote 3rd party then, can't do that it's worse (right said a waste not split the vote, we need to change it from the inside.
I know you haven't been reading though my replies but we've been going through the loop of the dems are the only option possible
I have read your replies. Your replies don't seem to get what I'm saying though, so I keep responding.
Dems are the only option. That is the situation as it is now. There are things which we should do and need to change, but that's not here, nor now. So yes, we have to, begrudgingly, vote for Democrats.
Saying that there's things we should do and are going to do and changes that need to happen are cheap words, and saying you shouldn't vote at all because of the shitty situation or things need to be done is purposefully taking away power from the people.
Voting even helps Democrats move to the left. Voting got Mamdani elected. That's one more Democrat that's more left. His success and popularity will sway more people to run and put out more leftist policies. Those people only get into power by voting, in primaries and I'm big elections. That can only happen if ya vote.
So in response to me saying you've both missed the point of the op meme and have been going through the infinity loop meme, it's vote democrats because that's the only option.
While also saying I'm not reading or understanding you, your response is to continue to repeat that the only option which you freely admit will do nothing is all we can do is.
Which you say we can't do because would hurt dems getting in power.
Yes the exception of Mamdani's win proves the rule as the dnc and dems, who again you say are the only options, did everything possible to prevent from winning. The dems who in response to the people showing what they want and crave in a politician/political party said we must keep moving right.
Again we get to the dems are the problem but everyone like in the meme says the only option and too keep trying until they let us kick it the football