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Weird that you're making this a US problem
This is the fediverse; shitting on the US is its favorite pastime, even when the US isn't involved.
Well, maybe second favorite pastime after talking about Linux.
Might I interject for a moment…
arch, I assume
Vegan, atheist but close.
The White House posted a pic of him and trump with the caption “Two Kings 👑”
So not quite as not involved as you may have thought.
That's because he's recently been on a state visit to the US where he was unanimously welcomed by all of Washington, with none of the politicians of either party bringing up how absurdly anti-denocratic and elitist monarchy is.
To be fair, while having a monarchy is bullshit, it's still less ridiculous than electing Donald Trump president.
True, but so are 99.999999% of all things that have ever happened in the history of all possible realities.
Im not really a fan of the monarchy but I feel like your assessment might be a little unfair.
He gave a speech to congress and hilighted a lot of ways in which republicans are undermining democracy, and a lot about how Trump is destabilising global politics for no benefit.
In that speech, literally in the lions den, he was more critical of Trumpism than any world leader has been in recent months.
He can get away with it because hes a head of state, yet he has no control - the unique position of a monarch in a modern democracy.
The silly hat is silly, but traditional garb always is.
Don't forget he is the head of state of a close ally. You should be nice to your allies' heads of state when they visit your country.
At least as a politician. The rest of us can rage
Yeah it's not like he doesn't know where America officially stands on the British monarchy. That's like the one thing you can't criticize us for compared to the other English speaking settler colonial nations.
America is probably more supportive of the British monarchy than the British public are.
I think we should arrest him and put him on trial for 69.3 million counts of kidnapping and involuntary servitude. He's guilty of kidnapping and enslaving an entire nation! We should put on trial under anti-slavery laws. What more is "subject" than a polite word for "slave?"
while he’s here in the USA he should show some respect for our customs by wearing a MAGA hat & speaking our language!!!
He would need to be a good deal more senile to manage that with the proper pomp tho.
I wholeheartedly disagree. If anything, I'm being too lenient on the ultraleech and his enablers.
While that's absolutely true, that rings EXTREMELY hollow coming from the head of the richest example of the most antidemocratic relic of the past.
Monarchy even existing inherently undermines democracy.
Even if that was true (and I very much doubt it), it would still smack of hypocrisy coming from an ACTUAL king that personally owns more of the world's real estate than any other human and shielded his child abusing brother for decades before finally relenting to public pressure with the utmost reluctance.
Officially, he has very little control and a gentleman's agreement not to use whatever institutional power he DOES have unless absolutely necessary, sure.
In reality, though, he can and will break that agreement and exceed that authority whenever he feels like it and the worst that'll happen to him is being criticized by some of the press for a while.
Is a contradiction of terms if I ever saw one.
Hell, the UK "democracy" isn't even that modern BESIDES him and his immediate family: ever hear of a little thing called the House of Lords?
It's far past time to abandon tradition for tradition's sake.
It's just peer pressure from dead people, and in the case of the UK monarchy, it's wasting billions in public resources.
Meanwhile, regular people in the UK are increasingly impoverished and suffering under draconian austerity policies.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Lords_(Hereditary_Peers)_Act_2026
They lost their hereditary status yesterday 🥳
While that's DEFINITELY an important step in the right direction well worth celebrating, they're still unelected elites who get a say on the laws of the land.
I think they are now nominated by the HoC, so it's an indirect election, but not undemocratic.
If it's done well, the evolution of the British House of Lords is actually really promising.
It seems to be becoming a "House of Experts". IMO elections result in a people of a certain personality type winning. There are a lot of people who would make excellent legislators who wouldn't win that kind of popularity contest. There are also a lot of decisions that are unpopular in the short term (1 election cycle) but critical in the long term. If all legislators are facing re-election every 2-5 years it's hard for them to pass those critical laws.
Oh hell yeah
Its never time to abandon tradition just for the sake of it. That's how you lose history.
Retire it for good reason, or repurpose it for the betterment of all. Tradition is a symbol and a pillar of community.
Even the British monarchy has a place in the modern world. Banishing it to the shadow realm just because it's out of date is not the right call. There are plenty of other options that doesn't just throw out the baby with the bath water.
That's not what I'm suggesting at all.
I'm saying to keep traditions that have meaning to us beyond merely being tradition and stop wasting time, effort, and resources on the rest.
Agreed 100%
Though often not in a positive sense.
100% disagree.
It's not just because it's out of date. It's akso because it's a gigantic waste of public resources and otherwise an inherently abusive exemplar of immense unearned privilege.
Bad choice of analogy. If the monarchy fits at all, it's the filthy and cold bath water that's no longer of use and is currently giving the baby, society, hypothermia.
Pure hysterics. He isn’t even the biggest landowner in the UK. He personally owns 46,000 hectares, while Anders Holch Povlsen owns 89,000.
How did he “shield” him for decades? Charles has always resented Andrew and got rid of him as soon as he became King. Certainly without reluctance and probably with a spring in his step.
As Parliament has proven in the past they can make a King suffer for thinking about exceeding constitutional boundaries.
Which is an upper house mainly appointed by governments. It’s democratic, but not the form of democracy some people want.
Citation needed. The British monarchy (at £85m annual cost) is significantly cheaper than the French Presidency (£94m, excl. lifetime pension) for example.
You really think either of the two US parties are truly pro-democratic/anti-elitism?
Nope
Lol yeah the US is a real bastard here for being friendly to the foreign leader they're hosting. Really good take, you should run for office
So what, are we supposed to be insulting our allies and pushing them to change their system of government now? Like, yeah we should for the Saudis and Israel, but there are better things for us to criticize the UK for and we're really in a glass house at the moment. And beyond all that, it's not like our country's official position on the British crown and monarchy in general has been unclear.
You can criticize someone for multiple things. Its not one or the other.
Ain't nothing people love more then to be racist and xenophobic. And Lemmy has a massive love of abusing the USA.
Half the time it's well deserved to be fair, but ain't goanna stop people from being shit stains every chance they get!
Well he's the king of an US state
It’s weird that the US makes this an everyone problem, but that’s the last hundred years of globalism