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As someone who's a recovering alcoholic, I can safely say there's two types in the recovery spehere: chuds and some of the nicest people you'd ever meet, no inbetween!
To put on my tinfoil theory hat for a moment, I think this is because the same material conditions that make alcoholics also make CHUDS and leftists: poor material conditions. Alcoholism is a very proletarian addiction.
Middle of the road liberals live too comfortably to get radicalized in either direction and also live too comfortably to hit the rock bottom required to get forced into recovery. And if a liberal's material conditions get bad enough, they either become a leftist or a CHUD.
What I say to my comrades when they express concern about how much beer I've been drinking.
Real
And you should hold on to those comrades
We all need eachother to get through this time of monsters
My comrades are named Modelo, Corona and Heineken
Hillary lapsed into alcoholism after she lost. Kamala had persistent rumors about her being drunk, but I never watched her speak so I can't say. Usually with those you want to get another addict of that kind of drug because they can spot each other right away. I learned that on prison youtube when some got out and everyone went yay and then they went right back to what got them into prison in the first place.
Do the political classifications (CHUD, leftist) we're using for people that are petite bourgeois at most even apply to members of the USA ruling class?
Hillary and Kamala are both clearly class conscious bourgeois, right? They'd never end up in recovery alongside us proles, they get private treatment and never reach rock bottom.
Just pointing out that alcoholism is not "a very proletarian addiction" which is a classist smear if I've ever heard one.
The fact that it isn't exclusive to the proletariat isn't really a counter to the point I was getting at.
Historically and presently, workers have alcohol as an easily accessible means to escape reality. The bourgeois generally don't need that kind of escape because they own everything. Typically the bourgeois inflicts their own problems upon themselves.
My intent is not and was not to treat it as a classist smear. I just noticed a relationship in the world and wanted to mention it
Do you even KNOW any working class people? It's pills now. Oxy, xanax, and the ever-popular ritalin.
I'm too autistic to tell if this is a bit or not, but in my hometown at least, it's alcoholism and heroin. All working class folks
This guy was also an alcoholic apparently. He loves recounting stories about how he'd down a bottle of Jack on the car ride from getting off work to the bar, and then order a bottle of Jack at the bar, and the pop painkiller in the bathroom.
I used to play D&D with a guy who had similar stories but he was just a big friendly bear who loved print making and cooking pasta (he was Italian).
I actually left a recovery group called "punks in recovery" cause I caught some of the members doing antisemitism in other groups we happened to run in, and all the mods were fucking cowards when I brought it up in public.
Anyways you should DM me about recovery stuff, thard be rad.
Some of the people I've met who were most hostile to people with addictions were people who'd recovered from addiction themselves.
Crabs in a bucket mentality is so damn common in this evil country
Fuck it if i start a Hexbear recovery group, would anyone be interested in joining?
I'd join. I actually like AA, I think the steps are pretty good, but finding the right group is hard. I've only found 2 that I actually like. One of those groups has a separate group chat for the leftists to rant about politics because it does effect us, but we can't really bring it up in the main AA chat because it's against the principles
Have you done any smart recovery stuff? I dont mind NA or AA, but straight up they take up too much of each meeting talking about the org and its tenants. I go to both, but get more from the smart shit. Food for thought, like i said, im active in both.
Anyways yeah sounds like an element chat is in order
Narcanon is a Scientology front group. They'll try to recruit you. L. Ron Hubbard was super against drugs of any type, especially psychiatrists.
Yeah sure I'm in, I can't stand AA/ N/A, I've yet to try smart recovery tho
It would be nice to know its there for when I inevitably have to be sober again in the future.
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