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Continuing the great American tradition of jury nullification
This wasn't nullification. The sandwich throw clearly isn't assault. No crime was committed here.
Clearly the other two were crimes. I'm skeptical they have the right guy for either, but I haven't seen the evidence and the jury will.
IANAL and I'm not real clear on DC law but I think the argument was that Mr ice felt like he was being attacked because of the sandwich, not that the sandwich was causing real harm. So even though there was contact the throwing of the sandwich was a threat, making it assault.
It’s actually pretty insane that this has happened, what, twice now in only a few weeks, both cases related to the fed occupations. I can’t even remember the last time an acquittal like this happened before that, though I don’t follow this stuff closely. I think OJ is the last one I’m aware of but that’s obviously a totally different situation. I was definitely expecting s different outcome, but good for him. I remember in the video they called him “Superman”, lol. I guess so!
They didn't even say if the sandwich had ketchup or mustard in it. The combination can make a big difference in how the crime should be treated. What if it had Mayo! Has anyone stopped to think about that?
My education is in the works. Is this actually an example of jury nullification? Like, what he did was actually illegal, but the jury presumably, thought the law was unjust? Or is throwing a sandwich at ICE just not illegal?
He threw an object in hostility at a (supposed) federal employee, which could be assault. Jury said no, because they can.
It is, by the letter of the law, assault (and battery, if that's a separate thing there). But the jury is not bound in any way as to whether they find a defendant guilty or not guilty.
There was a pretty locally big felony murder case. Some Norteños jumped some Sureños. The Norteños had bats. One of the Sureños had a gun. One of the Norteños died.
Now, under stone principle I don't understand and can't remember what it's called, when you start committing a crime, any crimes that occur as a direct consequence are attributable to the party that began the illegal actions. So the Norteños went on trial for felony murder for shooting their own fellow gang member (since the Sureños could reasonably argue self defense and the DA wanted to do something about gang violence, they prosecuted the Norteños) even though a Sureño pulled the trigger.
I learned it's difficult to get a conviction from a fair jury for felony murder when you "started it". They were acquitted.
I can really see going after the ones who started it in the case you mentioned, even though their guy died. That feels like a tough row to hoe for the persecution, though.
I wonder o of the jury would have more likely to convict if it was a bystander who died.
Not a lawyer but my reading of it is that, in other context, this fact pattern could theoretically lead to a conviction. It is hard to imagine a sandwich causing actual harm, though, so it is probably unethical to have even brought charges knowing it is such bullshit.