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[–] [email protected] 111 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Imagine whining about how people prefer to play good games that work on launch.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago (3 children)

From what I gather, there is a real fear in develper spaces that executives will take the wrong lessons from BG3. They will want the same scope, choice, narrative, & mechanics but through crunch, shutting down smaller projects, & homogenized visual & narrative focus. IE all the shiny bits without the time, work culture, & creativity that came with creating BE3. It isn't developers just being pissy this is their way of trying to stop their idiot boss from ruining their current project or making massive projects without enough time or staff.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's because these executives don't care about learning. They want examples that they can use to rationalize their shitty decisions.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

They want money and everything else is ammo to use in that pursuit.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So the answer is for the ones who make nice things because of a nice system they have to just stop because the other crabs can't get out of the bucket. Maybe their beef should be with their idiot boss, not with the guys who do the work.

Whatever happened to companies learning from other's successes instead of trying to keep others down?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The above post isn't saying that Larian or other devs shouldn't make games like BG3. It's saying that we shouldn't expect the massive amount of content and options in BG3 for every game

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My bad, I have interpreted it as apologetic for the people yelling at Larian for 'ruining it' for everyone.

I agree that we should not expect this sort of quality from everything, after all Gauss' curve applies universally and this is quite far from the mean as I see it. We would just maybe like... less shite.

But it's not like Larian are the first to raise the bar. I remember the days when Blizzard was an awesome company. Then I remember Bethesda being awesome. Now it's Larian on the spotlight. I may not have followed the news back when the others were good, but I don't remember such attitudes around as mentioned in the original post, to basically discredit instead of leaving it alone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I mean, we didn't have nearly as much social media back then and a 24/7 news cycle that causes random tweets to be blown up into IGN articles. I think the initial tweet was just a random thought that got spun way out of proportion

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It isn’t developers just being pissy this is their way of trying to stop their idiot boss from ruining their current project or making massive projects without enough time or staff.

Unions.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Also releasing on PC first is practically unheard of. It's usually the afterthought platform if it gets a release at all.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah, to the OP in the posted tweet... I did put a lot of thought into it. If a game that's just $60 can do this, then all new games are measured against it. Go compete. If your business model is outdated, convince your investors to change or be downgraded to B tier game dev.

Don't come me, the consumer, complaining about your poor ability to hedge business markets. You saw BG3 in early access for 3 years, you knew it was coming.