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[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

And then yell at them in comment sections when the democrats lose to fascists again.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

If you don't vote for them... They will lose...

They're not a hockey team where it doesn't matter if you participate as a fan or not. If they don't get votes then they don't get political power.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 hours ago (4 children)

And what is the difference between them winning and losing? I’ve been voting for them for years and hating it every time and getting nothing but excuses.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

And what is the difference between them winning and losing?

Are you fucking joking?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

I’m frustrated. Democrats win and don’t get anything done because of republicans and then lose and don’t bother resisting the republicans.

Republicans make things worse, of course , but democrats don’t or can’t make things better.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 57 minutes ago

You're saying this in a thread about a Democrat who won. What is the difference of Chuck Schumer was there or not? It seems to be the same result either way.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

The complete destruction of civil rights, a stable state, trade relations, diplomatic relations, the integrity of elections, the actual health if the nation, so on and so on.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

The complete destruction of civil rights

We lost Roe under Biden's watch

a stable state

The Memphis police department got COVID money from Congress that went into the pockets of the officers who beat Tyre Nichols to death on Biden's watch

diplomatic relations

We torched whatever credibility we had left on human rights issues by arming Israel while they carried out a genocide when Biden was president

the integrity of elections

Republican led states passed tons of voter suppression laws while Biden was in the White House

the actual health if the nation

See my comment about the destruction of civil rights

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Which has all happened despite me voting for them for the last 25 years

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago
[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Them winning makes it harder for the Chuck Schumer's of the world to come up with excuses for caving to Republicans. Simply electing anyone with a (D) behind their name isn't sufficient, but it is a necessary step one of unfucking the country.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Counterpoint: John Fetterman

Counterpoint: Kirsten Sinema

Counterpoint: Joe Manchin

Counterpoint: Joe Lieberman

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Yeah, fair, but those are all step 2 problems. Like, Fetterman has been infuriatingly awful, but Dr. Oz would have been at least as bad.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

We never get to step 2 because like clockwork they lose seats every couple years and we need those assholes just to keep a slim majority.

It’s been this way my entire life. Step 2 will never come.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 54 minutes ago (1 children)

It’s been this way my entire life

Same. FWIW, I felt totally alone when I was complaining about this stuff decades ago, now even the most moderate people I know will say things about Republicans that I wouldn't repeat on public forums.

Step 2 will never come.

Honestly, I don't know if you're right or not, but I do know that they will make it feel impossible right up until it actually happens, and I just don't think there's any better way forward than this (admittedly difficult) one

[–] [email protected] 1 points 40 minutes ago

There’s no “they” doing it. It’s a fact of the structure of the government and 250 years of cruft. We can’t not vote for the democrats, no matter how bad they are, which means they don’t need to care what we think.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Who are the facists in this context? Shubert or the guys he’s voting with? Asking as im not based in us

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago

Schumer is a Democrat so based on the context they're referring to the Republican fascists

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

You should have voted blue because this time it would have worked for sure!