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[–] [email protected] 125 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

In times past, anyone doing anything like that around the president would have put the president on the fast track to impeachment.

Today, this will just slide, and we'll have another piece of outrageous news tomorrow that nobody will be outraged about for more than 10 minutes. Different values today I guess...

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Impeachment in the US seems to be meaningless too, though

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's because impeachment is a partisan process. If the Republicans had an ounce of integrity (or even self-preservation) they would have joined the Democrats in voting to convict when Trump was impeached multiple times previously.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago

The second time was their easiest out. He wasn't President, he had just lost an election, most of the country was disgusted with his antics post-election or at least just tired with it all.

They could've kneecapped him right then and barred him from running again. He would have left Washington a pariah. Most Republians hated the man, and this was their chance to shoot the rabid dog, but they were afraid of getting primaried over it. Which itself is ridiculous because most of the GOP senators were 3-5 years from their next primary.

That was when the GOP was fully-captured.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The goal of fox news post nixon was to prevent anything similar to what happened to nixon as a result of watergate. That and the fact that wall street robber barons were mot punished for the business plot fascist coup attempt against fdr and then the son and grandson of that coup attempt’s primary architect were both sitting presidents and now America has been obviously fascist to anyone paying attention the last 40-50 years now they are so emboldened they don’t even try and hide it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Dude. Punctuation.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

It really is. It does fucking nothing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

It's not so much values as it is a lack of power in the working class. These things can be done because the greater population has no power or influence. Since their is no organization to resist it the mass of the population falls into two areas of "cope". The crowd that knows it's fucked up and has no one to organize against it. And the crowd that knows it's fucked up but "no one is doing anything" so they find a place to normalize or deny it. It's not "really" a Nazi salute.

You may call this "values". But I'd say it's more about how well the ruling class has controlled and passified the population.

Also, when half the country is worried about putting food on the table or paying rent. They really don't have time to give a fuck. Material conditions really shape what we might perceive as a "lack of values".