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[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Also, for us, I think we need to acknowledge that we've been in this place for a long time, we've been through the deprogramming process, and we shouldn't take it lightly that people are actually learning things through this little adventure to RedNote. The people at the base of the mountain could not even see it, meanwhile we've been claiming it for years now, many of us for much longer, and I only started unlearning things around 5 years ago.

The thing that I recall before reeducating myself is that China never entered my mind. China was not something that I ever really thought about, until there was some news story about it. I think for many of these people, it's the same. China isn't even background noise. It only exists when the news media reports on it.

So even learning basic facts about China blows their mind. The fact that they're learning these basic facts directly from Chinese people, makes it irrefutable. The Chinese people on the app are so welcoming and friendly and funny that it's also disarming, making the experiences they share that much more acceptable.

This moment will eventually pass. The novelty will likely wear off and new people coming to the platform might drop off. I think for the people who are engaging now, though, this is a massive and collective deprogramming moment.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think Chinese media could play a big role in promoting more consciousness of what's going on over there. Americans proved that they're capable of watching foreign films with all the Parasite craze 5 years ago, I think it would serve this group that is learning that China is cool to get involved with the arts and watch Chinese films, listen to their music, etc. etc. Those are memorable things that should help further break down the big cognitive wall that people have that keeps them from engaging with China as a really existing country and not a boogeyman.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think Chinese media could play a big role in promoting more consciousness of what's going on over there.

I think in the short term yeah but I wouldn't be surprised if we ban Chinese media eventually for that reason.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I can't imagine a huge number of people are watching Chinese stuff legally. It might be more of a problem for music, but they're never gonna stop people from torrenting and going to the movie streaming sites that are in that perpetual game of whack-a-mole.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

I dunno if something could get parasite levels of traction with normies if you could only watch it illegally tbf

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Funny, since this started, I had this thought in the back of my mind that I should look up some Chinese pop music or something. Especially since I've been seeing some small time American music artists appear on the platform, with many positive comments from the Chinese netizens. I've also seen threads asking to share music.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Hiperson is great, they're from Chengdu, its kinda indie-rocky

Wang Wen is from Dalian, more post-punk vibes, Invisible City is a great album

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Oooo, I like the sound of Hiperson, they have a really good sound!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Also cantopop is great, but I don't know any bands by name

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I made a thread on RedNote and I have so much music to listen to now! @[email protected], @[email protected], thanks for the suggestions as well!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Floruitshow福禄寿 is my favorite Chinese group. They split up and two of the three sisters formed a new band called DOUDOU, the live album is really good.