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oh wow look at me I'm a human! when do I live? now, clearly. Everyone older than me lived in these descriptive periods of history that define the je ne sais quoi of the everything. I'm gonna tell everyone in the future that I'm living in the "now" time! wowwww, fuck you dickhead, real fucking selfless ain'cha. now we have to deal with the mass confusion every time someone distinguishes between modern[^1] and contemporary.[^2] i want your incorporeal form toyed with by forces unknown to me because you've slightly inconvenienced literally everyone in the modern day. jackass

[^1]: kinda not now technically, depending on context [^2]: definitively now

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago (5 children)

It's fine, future historians will just label this the Late Iron Age or the Steel Age or the Silicon Age.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago (3 children)

like how World War 1 and 2 are gonna get covered as a single event, or how the US is gonna be mistaken for latter half of the British Empire.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Historians like Enzo Traverso or Losurdo already argue this, that WWI and WWII are actually a long Second Thirty Years War

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

The late revival of the roman empire.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

or how the US is gonna be mistaken for latter half of the British Empire.

same-picture

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean the world wars and the interwar period is basically a 30 years war situation.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

WWI is pretty intimately linked with the race for Africa and the colonial wars. There’s definitely a telling of 20th century history where you treat the two world wars as discrete events, with WWI marking the end of the colonial wars, and WWII marking the beginning of the Cold War and decolonization.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is WWII not just an extension of these colonial wars by the powers that "lost" in the race for colonies? Japan attempts to take the Asian colonial possessions of the British and the Americans, the Italians attempt to take the North African colonial possessions of mainly France and Britain (as well as their own colonial war in Ethiopia), and Germany attempts to apply colonialism as well as colonial tactics of control and genocide to Eastern Europe in its mission to create colonial "living space".

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Yes Germany, Italy and Japan were the upcoming revisionist powers that tried to disrupt the old world order of the Anglosphere and France. The United States had already supplanted Britan pre-bellum as the largest economy and the internal closed market of the british empire was threatened to be opened to the dollar by south africa. While Russia was seen as a threat due to its (potential) and later realized industrialization.

Thats why Lenin predicted the Pacific war from Japan against the United states, before it happened.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

nah, this is the age of petroleum and microplastics.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

The age of PFAS and Covid

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

We should do a bad job of record keeping so they call it the second dark age.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

with how easily digital records decay i've seen it argued that this could be the case

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

I think they might have a reason other than our records keeping to call our time the second dark age

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

later bronze age collapse

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

The right angle age. Cause all of our buildings are boring squares instead of shapes that work with the environment