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Hey everyone, I've removed bans for everyone that did not request one in the previous admin thread. (I think. If you got banned and I didn't restore your account yet, let me know and I'll fix it.) Don't worry! We're not gonna just ban people for no reason.

In case anyone hasn't seen it yet, Alaskaball confirmed that Sangria was their admin alt. They were messing around with their admin tools on their own account and figured it would be seen as a funny bit, but without being informed of the bit many of the mods and admins were just as shocked, confused, and appalled as you were. I've talked to the other admins and mods, and we're all gonna take it easy on bits for a bit. (Pun intended. This is the last one, I promise.)

If you're afraid that there's been an infiltration of transphobic, egomaniacal wrecker mods who hate the users, I want to assure you that's absolutely not the case. The overwhelming majority of mods and admins on this site are trans. Our admins are all trusted, long-time users in good standing. We regularly browse, comment, and post on our main accounts. You post and chat with us daily as comrades, and we value all of you. You may not recognize the usernames on our admin accounts because we regularly swap the alts used for admin privileges. This is why you'll see really old or unused alt accounts as well as really new accounts on the admin team.

I've seen a lot of speculation down below, some entertaining, some upsetting. We absolutely do not accept transphobia or any form of bigotry on this site. Some of the statements provided by mods and admins have been seen as transphobic and bioessentialist. I want to offer some transparency, but also clarify that I can't get much more specific on this for personal security reasons.

During the earlier discussions on how we felt things could be improved with these communities, multiple trans mods and admins described their reasoning in favour of the change by expressing with a variety of wording that it's the [he/him] demographic in particular that has been the source of toxic and troubling behavior in the tanks. That the he/hims haven't been beating the accusations, so to speak. With that group being largely cishet white guys on this site, these two terms were assumed to roughly correlate. We weren't making prepared statements for release, the comments that got posted here were paraphrased and combined from more casual comments made by trans people, in the mod chat to mostly other trans people about some of the chauvinistic and ironically bigoted posting habits that they saw as alienating and unhealthy for the site, and what we could do to improve the situation. We genuinely didn't foresee the potential for a miscommunication of those statements as being bioessentialist, and want to extend our sincerest apologies for the misunderstanding.

Edit: Please feel welcome to post in c/gossip as you would have posted in the_dunk_tank, and in c/counterpropaganda as you would have posted in the_dredge_tank.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 days ago (6 children)

I've removed bans for everyone that did not request one in the previous admin thread.

Still got REgon, Aradina, morte etc banned

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I'm unbanned now. The worst part is that I also got community banned from like ten communities (including tdt lol) and would have to resub to them, but I think I'm just going to not for most of them

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sorry, I don't have a way to fix that in mod tools yet. Apologies for the inconvenience.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's a lemmy problem not a you problem

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They could have just not banned you

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah but that's not a helpful suggestion after the fact. I want things to cool down

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Honestly, great response. I'm certainly confused and annoyed about all this and would probably handle it worse.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago

IDK if I'd wish that on anyone right now lol

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

Wait no, better reply:

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago
[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I was wondering what that was about, why your name showed up like 10 times for different comms but the other ones just got site bans.

edit: disregard. I now see you explained what probably happened in another comment.

[–] dont_trust_the_skull 24 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Never Stop Posting, Chummer

my final message change da world also let me out of gay baby jail please

  • not morte
[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I almost didn't catch the PS:T reference.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Oh so they aren't even honest about unbanning the people who were banned for being critical, even though we're being told the bans were rescinded, and the person who gave the bans "feels bad" about it? This just gets worse and worse.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago

Sorry, I've missed some of the bans in the modlog and had asked for help if I had missed any. If there's any others I've missed, please let me know.

(please don't shoot the messenger)

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Doesn't necessarily matter, but why was Aradina also banned from a bunch of communities for the same period of time? At first I assumed it was a powermod but there's no single mod in common between all of them.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

It's probably because I'm a .ml account and it's a byproduct of that. It(byproduct) banned me from an odd mix of places I use and places I've never posted, so it doesn't seem malicious anyway.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

Ah, missed that.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Working on it! It'll take a moment, so slight delay to further answers!

E: Got aradina and morte. Regon unfortunately is retaining the temp ban. Please let me know if I've missed any others.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Regon unfortunately is retaining the temp ban.

agony-4horsemen

Holy shit

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I do feel bad for the admins that stayed awake until 4 AM to take flak but damn this just keeps getting funnier

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Do we get an actual reason for REgon's ban? Modlog says "Please give your keycaps a break and take some deep breaths."

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

REgon has had a long-standing history of hostility including stretching back to their now deleted former account, and a cooldown period was deemed appropriate well in advance but wasn't actually applied at that time as they weren't actually being hostile or accusatory then. It's not permanent and we'll welcome them back in a few days.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago

There were a couple instances of hostility over the past couple days but they made edits when it was called out

I think this was the wrong decision, worsened by the "debate bro" alt continually posting about how REgon was definitely going to be banned.

I would have unbanned them and given them an opportunity to have say their final piece here, with a warning that hostility in the future would result in a cool down temp ban.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago