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Hello users of Hexbear, we wanted to inform you that we are going to be locking the_dunk_tank and dredge_tank communities. We have created two new communities /c/gossip and /c/counterpropaganda to serve a similar but clearly distinct purpose than the dunk/dredge tanks.

Not only is the dunk tank a term that has racist origins, but also many posts there were almost no effort and often times requiring later edits to show how they weren't reactionary, ~~not useful with regard to developing rhetoric and furthering dialectical analysis of that which we dunk upon~~.

To that end, we wish posts of reactionaries to be placed in [email protected] along with an accompanying explanation (as simple or complex as desired) with the intent of countering the reactionary propaganda in the post body, as of now comments are not subject to the same ~~rhetorical rigor~~ rule.

For the posts ~~that are not "low-hanging fruit'~~ of notable people we ask that you use [email protected] .

These changes are mainly part of a continued effort to remove the racist and misogynistic elements from our community and grow.

Any moderators of the dunk tank or dredge tank that want to be a mod in the new communities let me know.

Any users with questions or comments please use this post, this change was made at the behest of the entire Hexbear mod and admin team. We will be looking for more moderators in an organized volunteer drive shortly, if you wish to submit an application you may send it to me via hexbear or matrix direct messages.

Use this post as a place for discussion to these changes. We will keep things as they are for 2 weeks and then reflect on the feedback, including this post: https://hexbear.net/post/3858346

As a personal addendum I am sorry if ~~the closing of the tanks~~ these changes removes a beloved space on the site and if you want to suggest a community to replace them you may do so at [email protected] or submit a mod application to take a more active role in shaping the site.

Sitewide or community changes come from proposals put forth from the mod team, discussed, and voted on by the mod team.

Any users wanting to suggest a community to replace the tanks, may do so at [email protected] current discussion is here https://hexbear.net/post/3858346 or submit a mod application to take a more active role in shaping the site.

You may also consider using [email protected] as a substitute for dunk/dredge tank posts as well

The mod statement can be found here: https://hexbear.net/comment/5613033

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Not trying to stir up a shitstorm, but I was a little surprised when it was pointed out that @replaceable is a mod of the dunk tank, considering the fact he doesn't enjoy its' content. I was also surprised that this is how he decided to engage with those he disagreed with. Honestly if this is how you feel about a comm, just don't moderate it instead. I don't know who argued for what behind the scenes, but if this is the general mindset behind the reasoning provided, then jeez. Posting isn't praxis, hexbear is itself a treat.

I gotta say, it's weird to me to moderate a comm full of content one dislikes. I still don't understand the mentality of "I don't like it, therefore no one should be able to interact with it." There's plenty of stuff here I dislike or don't get, but others do, so what's the problem? I don't really see the purpose of the megathread for example, but others do.

The name change is good and I hope there's some formalized process for voting for new names or whatever is decided. I still don't understand wether the rules have been changed or if you're now going to not do that. I really don't understand communicating like this in an announcement-thread about one of the most active comms, when you're a moderator of that comm, that's just not fostering anything good. It'd be pretty weird if I was a dismissive dick in c/internationale or in a thread about rules changes to c/internationale.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I honestly don’t know why some seem to think people are getting like genuinely worked up over 99% of the shit posted in the dunk tank. I imagine almost if not every single post is “ayy get a load of this stupid bastard” and then they go on like normal. Like it really is not that deep lol

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Totally. apparently it genuinely affected a few people’s mental state, and they blocked the comm. Seems like that could’ve been the end of it but shrug-outta-hecks

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yea I mean I don’t want to affect anyone in a negative way.. but sure I can’t stand badposting and at least a couple of users have irked me enough that I’ve blocked them so it’s good we have that, nothing is gonna be all things to all people and some people are gonna have certain sensitivities that others don’t share

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

When it starts becoming a large part of the site it becomes unhealthy. Blocking the dunk tank means blocking a lot of content on the site. They're trying to direct people to more healthy discussions instead of spending their time getting mad online.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Mods trying to make all content productive effortposts has never worked. Fundamentally they take more investment. All this does is lower participation overall.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Nowhere have they indicated that everything needs to be an effortpost. And lower participation is fine if the "participation" is people saying thought-free stuff in response to literal ragebait.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

There seems to be an absolute disconnect with opponents of the comm having no idea whatsoever how it is use and why. And frankly I've gone from supportive to fuming angry at the patronizing attitude, infantilization, and open contempt displayed towards other users by the opponent crowd. I am shocked I did not expect to see hexbears treating their comrades so poorly and with so little consideration.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Wait, he's a fucking mod lol Is this a thing where he has gone mad with (mod) power and like an unpopular king who has nothing but contempt for his subjects, refuses to abdicate due to being drunk on (mod) power? Or is he like Frankenstein who is having a cinematic moment where he melodramatically gets on his knees and laments, "my god, what have I done?" as his creation, a subforum of a niche website, (metaphorically) rampages across said niche website?

This is so pathetic lmao. Okay, this whole saga is really funny to me now.