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[–] [email protected] 116 points 3 months ago (4 children)

We actually don’t have a pipeline to recycle plastic bottles though, right?

[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Bottle deposit systems are generally effective. In Sweden, 90-95% of the pet plastic in drink bottles makes it back to a factory to be used as raw material for new bottles. We don't really recycle the hdpe lids or polyester labels, though.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Why aren't we just using glass, as we did for decades just fine.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (5 children)

That's not actually a solution when talking single-use either. Remaking the bottles from recycled glass is incredibly energy intensive and not an environmentally friendly process either. Multi-use bottles are much better, but the cleaning required also isn't that simple and also relatively energy intensive (far from remaking the bottles of course).

There's also practical downsides to glass (heavy, breakable), but those are subjective and their relevance highly depends on the use case.

Ideally, we wouldn't buy stuff to drink in any kind of bottle, but just use tap water. possibly just buy some concentrated stuff to then make your actual drink at home. Nothing beats the effectiveness of transporting water through a simple pipe, but that isn't even possible everywhere in the world due to drinking water quality issues...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

A lot of glass bottles aren't melted down, but simply washed and reused.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

If micro plastics in the water supply is an actual issue long term the tap water will be shot for the whole of most places. Reverse osmosis systems are the only ones I had heard could reliably help, but I haven't gone to extensive on looking into that. Each household may someday need under the sink or such systems if so : /. Unless we can reliably do so at treatment plants and then transport it through the lines without the water getting any back in. With many American cities having water at its current state, I don't see that happening.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

A surprising number of companies actually do sell powder versions of their drinks on the web. I buy both Arizona tea and A&W root beer packets online.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Holy shit I didn't realize you could buy root beer concentrate, this is amazing. I'm totally stocking up next time I'm in the US.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Well that would be because the god-king CEO would have like 45k less per year out of his 38,000,000 dollar salary without bonuses and stock value if we were to do that, you fuckin peasant idiot chump. Not only that but their enabling middle management might have as much as $200 less in their annual bonuses. Think for someone else other than yourself for once.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Our school won’t let us send reusable glass containers excuse of fear of breakage.

I kinda understand, but our first grader has been using them for snacks at home for 5 years and never broken one.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

When you say "we" as in you and me, yeah, I don't think we could manage to recycle them. "We" as a planet certainly can and many countries do.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Which countries? I thought only 9% of plastic is actually recycled.