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This is no honeymoon, the American "left" will never recover from the Harris/Walz combo; every major base of support (demographic/economic) is covered; Black woman with a jovial heartlandish white man standing behind her is the universal password for the legendary "competent American fascism" software update leftists have been prophesying.

They got this shit locked for at least eight years, Walz is suburbanite catnip and Harris has the identity libs eating out her hands, along with big tech, wallstreet, and the zionist lobby who are now methodically eliminating the last holdouts of the post-2016 nascent left movement

There is no credible avenue of leverage here, the libs can effectively respond to any leftist utterance with accusations of racism, misogyny, and purity testing and it will stick. Already we have most liberals being one rhetorical step away from defending Walz unleashing the National Guard on BLM protesters

There is no point in engaging with domestic national politics at this current time, the ball is firmly overseas

The only series of events that can undermine this new DNC paradigm is Israel blowing up the world and the US mobilizing to save it. Not even the collapse of Ukraine can dent it now, since that was "Biden's project"

Hate to say it, but the DNC won a firm generational victory

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[โ€“] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's all true, but my point is that their victory will deradicalize people away from leftism and socialism and instead radicalize them toward the competent fascism the DNC now represents even as it makes them poorer, something will give but the potential of a countervailing force emerging domestically has been foreclosed for at least a decade, unless something major happens overseas

I'm pretty much just copinly admiring the engineering quality of the off-ramp the dems built overnight on the highway leading toward worse conditions

[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

I don't know about that. The things you list going for Kamala and Waltz work electorally, but elections are short and the intervening years are long. Will people give a shit that a #Blackwoman is presiding over the next energy shock? Will folksy Tim win over anybody as Blackrock continues to become the works largest landlord and jacks up rent across the country? Will food inflation and deteriorating health systems go unnoticed because the political leaders can string 4 cogent words together? I doubt it. I think the Democrats have tripped into an electoral win, but as committed neo-liberals they'll still fall face first over every hurdle of actual governance. Their ideology contains no solutions: everything will get worse and the proles are supposed to be grateful for it. That's just not a message with staying power.