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[–] [email protected] 82 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I've seen a guy not lose half of his hand thanks to a sawstop. The tech is good. Most of SawStop's patents have also expired, and SawStop has agreed to make the key aspects that are technically still patented open to the public by the effective date of the law.

This shit is a no-brainer and even a 5 second Google search blows up her whole narrative on this instantly. Loser shit.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago (2 children)

sawstop is a lawsuit happy patent troll that is pushing this regulation so that every saw maker operating in the US has to pay them a licensing fee.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago (2 children)

If this is true, and I'll just take your word for the moment, then simple solution is simultaneously strip the patent and all variants of it going forward

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That does seem to be what's being proposed in the original post. The last line isn't "stop this indefinitely" it's "stop this until the patents are made public"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Okay, that's reasonable IF you're implementing a solution at the same time. Make it a legally standard part and have the manufacturers pay the patent holder for all I care until then. The stopgap measure shouldn't be 'keep letting people lose fingers until we settle this'.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Oh yeah, the caveat is that if you're gonna run this play you have to actually work to get that law passed. You can't just use the fact that a safety regulation would create a monopoly to not do anything

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

It wouldn't even bother me if they just like, made them cut a government contract style deal where they'd make and develop it under subsidy until they get a law passed. That's some wonk shit, but I'm trying to consider a doable thing under lib world to keep fingers on hands until it's settled. Cause in the end, does anyone operating these machines give a flying fuck who's getting the money for what's keeping their hands attached to.their arms more than that it's fucking there in the first place? Instal tthe damn sensors and then argue about it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And strip an innovator of their intellectual property? Earnestly this is probably legally/politically impossible for even the federal government to do.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I mean politically Biden is doing an extremely unpopular war/genocide. Stripping patents from shitty companies is far more popular. And yeah the government can essentially do anything it wants on that front. SCOTUS will sometimes strike things down as being unconstitutional, but if you go off that logic then basically every law can be debate-broed into being unconstitutional. Which is one of many problems with SCOTUS allocating itself more power... different discussion though. But yes congress can absolutely strip a patent with minimal effort.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I read they are also offering their patent to other table saw producers if this passes.