Comradeship // Freechat

I remember when people were saying that texting and abbreviations like LOL were the end of books and language as we know it.

A lot of this is just old people looking to blame the woes of society on a group they are definitively not part of. Can't be because of capitalism that people are living with their parents, if that were the case then maybe old people would have to accept some blame.

To your first point, most Black millennials either made up 99% slang used today (with some residuals from the previous gens, gotta give credit), i.e. "goofy ahh" is how you'd sound if you said goofy ass out loud irl, with certain accents sometimes skipping over the "s" sound (personally I say the whole joint but it's personal preference)

So really it's just AAVE being stolen, watered down and regurgitated so all the white suburban kids can sound cool. And they just chalk it up to "online speak", like nah you're appropriating a whole dialect, and that's why you sound so goofy.

Everything they say about GenZ is also things they said about millenials, of which I am, and which I'm sure they said about Xers and before as well.

Especially going to job interviews with your parents... I actually learned it was super common for Xers to have their parents negotiate everything for them, including jobs. Sometimes they might not even take you to the interview with them lol, at least there's some progress.

When I was young it was the walkman that was gonna be the ruin of society. You actually had psychologists on TV giving their theories as to how the youth uses the walkman to further alienate themselves from society or whatever. And in the 80s they had the Satanic cults panic lol.

They also said we were lazy, that we wanted everything handed to us, that we didn't want to work... and the same people that said that 10 years ago are saying that again but against GenZ. 20 years ago we spent too much time on the TV and it was gonna rot our brain, and now kids apparently spend too much time on the phone and it's gonna melt their eyes lol.

danged kids reacting to material conditions! back in my day we were motivated by pure ideology and that's the way we liked it!

I had a professor tell me that a not insignifigant amount of zoomers show up to job interviews with their parents

I will never be convinced this happens with any frequency. I remember reading the original story and it screamed bad methodology and interpretation in service of creating another "kids bad" story.

The claim was something like "10% of interviewers reported having a zoomer bring a parent to their interview."

1. What does "bring a parent" mean? If it can be stuff like "got a ride from a parent," then this is completely meaningless.
2. Even if they're measuring the actual weird thing of having a parent sit in on the conversation part of the interview, the actual incidence could be nowhere near anything significant. Say they surveyed 10 interviewers who did 100 interviews each with zoomers. One person -- out of 1000 total zoomer interviews -- bringing a parent is now laundered to "10% of interviewers report."

Also on that third point, how the fuck is it the kid's fault their parents hover over them like a helicopter? All of this "the kids these days are entitled and spoiled" stuff blames the kids, but the kids aren't the ones spoiling themselves, it's the previous generation that raised them that is at fault for being shit parents.

One of the biggest things Zs get mocked for is lingo:

Okay, I'll cop to this one, but that's because these little hee-haws, huly-hoops, and other et cetera won't stop lifting AAVE and bastardizing it even worse than millennial 4channers do.

As a millenial looking in, I think point 2 is due to the fact that you guys have even less wealth as a whole. You can't afford to do anything besides be on your cellphone and play videogames.

I and many other millenials were lucky enough to be able to go to concerts, clubs, travel, ski, etc. if we came from median income families in the west and went to college. Your gen, whether through the fruits of your own labor or from the support of your standard white/blue collar parents, cannot really afford that.

We were able to blow $200 on a weekend for fun once in a while, but I don't think most of your gen can do that anymore. Also the same activities are much more expensive these days so it's more like $350 I imagine.

I teach 16-18 year olds. This group is the hardest working group of teens I've ever seen. Well, they have to, the way the job market is going. Also they seem to have the lowest level of bigotry (queerphobia, racism, etc) that I've seen. Fuck anybody who's shitting on this generation.

Maybe, but people have also said this about the new generation since forever.

I don't know if she was hyperbolizing, but my Ancient Greek professor told us about how in ancient Greece people complained about a new generation lazily writing and reading everything instead of memorizing it. This would be the downfall of memory, performance, and all civilization, so on and so forth.

There is a good post somewhere with articles going back hundreds of years of people complaining that the new generation just 'doesn't want to work anymore' and how 'no one knows the value of whatever'. It's honestly always happened. My advice to you as your elder Generation Y'er: Try not to internalize it, Generation Z and Alpha. It's not you. It's them approaching their death.

I think the first point is moot anyway because every generation has stupid slang. Half the shit that was popular in the 80s would be pretty cringe these days

Z's are immature and rely on their parents for everything. [...] Most older people I know had a bad relationship with their folks or they passed away early, so they were forced to mature sooner.

When I worked in teaching I noticed a thread of parents who were desperately trying to not replicate the lack of support they had as kids, which often manifested as helicopter parenting because that lack of support meant they hadn't gained the skills they needed to support their kids in developing the same skills. Z's aren't immature, their parents were neglected.

Also, "kids talk weird" and "kids spend too much time on their object" go back to the dawn of civilisation. I'm pretty sure Plato or Socrates complained about kids writing things on their stelae instead of just memorising things while weight lifting.

1: "I can pick up what you're putting down!" "Back off you, jiive turkey!"

2: kid goes outside to play, is either shot by a property owner or arrested by cops for loitering/being suspicious/trespassing

3: Would be awesome to have a friend who was a master at Legal Law and have them sit down next to me during a job interview and whisper things into my ear like I'm some mafia don or CEO in a boardroom. If your parents are willing to do that, fuck yeah!

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you may have noticed that we're often the butt of many jokes

This is not a new phenomenon. You can find ancient Greek writings complaining about the youngest generation. "Kids these days" is just what happens when you're not one of the kids. It happened to us and it will happen to you.

None of this behaviours was developed in a vacuum, these are all qualitative changes result from the development of society.

I don't know every single cause for these changes but i do know that people being addicted to social media comes from the lack of attention from parents and the surrounding community.

Not getting what the kids are saying/wearing/doing is inevitable. Becoming your [general, not aimed at anyone here and apologies if your parents were cool] dorky-ass parents by complaining about it and pretending your generation was better is a choice.

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For point 3, I feel like Gen X helicopter parents are to blame... seen so many of my relatives spoiling and micromanaging their kids into young adulthood and i'm like wtf? I felt like I was basically raising myself at 14 as a middle millenial

Gen Z/Gen Alpha weirdness isn't really any weirder than previous generations