Participation trophy monuments lmao
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If the confederate monument was installed in the 19th century, I’ll hear the history argument.
If it was installed as an overtly racist response to civil rights movements in the 20th century, that shit is racist as hell and needs to disappear from public lands.
Nah. Tear 'em all down. The history can be left to the written word, detailing how they got destroyed. They don't deserve any monument trying to extoll their "glory". Rubble-ize them and put up memorials to the slaves in their place.
A collage/university in the UK (unfortunately can't remember which one) dealt with a similar problem well. It had statues of the founders out front. Unfortunately, they made their money from the slave trade. There were calls to destroy the statues. They instead, moved them to a small, half forgot garden in the back. As well as their original descriptive plagues, some more were added, explaining how they made their fortunes, and the various moral failings we now see in them.
It seems to me like this struck a good balance. It acknowledged the good they did, while emphasising the bad. Failing to recognise both good and bad can occur in individuals is often how history can repeat itself.
In short, don't destroy them. Instead, stick them at the back of a museum to the horrors of slavery, half forgotten, except for their crimes.
I like this approach, if we destroy the physical object, the history books will have less impact for future generations.
Add info about what horrible things they did, remove them from their place of honor, and put them in an alcove of shame.
No. Preserve them in museums as a reminder of what can happen.
History should never be destroyed, but that doesn't mean it has to be celebrated.
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I vote we melt them down and recast them into statues/memorials for civil right's people. at least the bronze ones.
maybe even southern civil right's people.
Your monuments don't matter you fucking losers.
- a northerner
*Edit monuments not moments lol
Couldn't agree more
~a Texan
The Daughters of the Confederacy can eat shit.
Oh, hell. I'll link to it again. Fuck the South.
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Hey Corey, your monuments don’t matter.
I wish I saved that meme I saw responding to "confederate statues are my heritage" with "destroying the confederacy is MY heritage"
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Sure is weird how these people are obsessed with being traitors and also think they’re patriotic.
"thE PArtY oF LIncoLn" waves the flag of his enemies
- these fucking idiots.
It's hilarious to me that redneck conservatives love to wave the flags of the Confederacy and the Nazis - the recipients of the two biggest beatdowns in US military history. Losers in every sense of the word.
Look up " The Daughters of the Confederacy". The monuments aren't even historic.
Well the are historic in that they're a part of the history of oppressing black people that continued after the Civil War. But doesn't seem like history someone in the South should want to celebrate.
Which Southern monuments?
The loser ones dedicated to the slavery loving losers who fought and LOST against the u.s.
Is yankee offensive? I am british and have called americans "yanks" for the past 10 years at least... Should i stop or is it ok?
It's only offensive to people from the southern US, but they're offended by a lot of things so who cares?
Nah. It can be used derisively but isn't in and of itself offensive. You're ok. Good on you for asking though.
Confederate-wannabes can try to use it as an insult but that doesn't really work. I take it as a point of pride over them.
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I think you are okay, guvna.
Not offensive, but others may feel differently.
Meh, in Tennessee a local bar has the Confederate battle flag on the wall and I have heard in there several times that all Yankees should be shot, referring to anyone from the north. The issue is that people have moved around so much there are from the north in the south and vise versa. New York and California are the most hated states by many southerners.
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You should keep doing it. It's funny.
It is used in Latin America as well as a serious denonym/gentilic. Though it can be used derisively, I'm assuming it's the same over there.
In Australia the term is ‘Seppo’. Seppo / septic tank / yank.
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Hey, us white people have suffered, too - like, they took away our slaves!
Imagine you go back to the 1860s and you see a cohort of this capacity start something. No wonder they got their arses kicked.
I wish I could filter rage bait like this off my dash
Participation trophies, don’t they hate those?
While a lot of these organizations that pushed the Lost Cause theory are shit heads. I would like to present the Valentine.
The Valentine traces its roots to Edward Valentine, a member of an aristocratic family in antebellum Richmond. Valentine spent the war studying art in Europe, and was depicting Confederates before the final shots were even fired. He was “helping to define the visual imagery of the Lost Cause,” Vida told me, by fashioning generals as godlike. Rather than historical renderings, the imagery of Richmond’s Confederates could be better likened to propaganda. Valentine sculpted Davis, and the statue, funded by the UDC, debuted in 1907.
The Valentine is fairly based because...
In a brick row house down the street from the White House of the Confederacy, a statue of the former president is spotlighted—lying on its back. After Jefferson Davis was pulled to the ground in 2020, the Valentine, a museum that presents Richmond’s history, was delighted to welcome him home. “A rope was tied around his waist and attached to a sedan,” Christina Vida, the curator of general collections, told me with a grin, “and he was pulled off his pedestal.” Vida has neat brown hair that swished at her shoulders as she circled the fallen Confederate on temporary display in the gallery. She pointed to his broken arm, flattened face, and coat of Pepto-Bismol pink paint. She said that of all Confederates doused in 2020, this remarkable pink was found only on Davis. She quite liked it.
There’s a lacquer on Davis’s wounds—a smashed nose, a chipped thumb—to preserve the damage. Tufts of a tissue noose still stick to his neck. When I asked Vida what she thought about the fact that he returned like this, she told me she’s thrilled. In this condition, he doesn’t need placards contextualizing the Lost Cause: He’s a new monument altogether. Atop a pedestal, Davis’s outstretched arm once commanded authority. From the ground, he’s reaching for a helping hand that no one seems to be offering.
Source: The New Republic, Yes, They’re Pro-Confederacy. But They’re Just the Nicest Ladies.
nothing is worse
was worse
i see absolutely no Problem here, move on lads.
(/s for the slow ones)
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