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Independent urban legend tracking and fact-checking website Snopes took a huge amount of fire on Saturday after marking a true story about President Joe Biden wearing a hard hat backwards “false” — so much heat that eventually they reversed their own ruling and the story is now marked “true” on the site.

At issue was a photo of Joe Biden wearing a hard hat backwards, which went viral on the right leaning side of social media before garnering enough attention to warrant a Snopes check.

The photo, which shows Biden wearing hard hat backwards, was included in the Snopes article that first called the story false.

The first tweet used in the Snopes article was a zoomed in photo of Biden wearing a hard hat backwards.

The close-up was from a photo of Biden wearing a hard backwards that was shared by Minnesota Democrat Amy Klobuchar.

They then also included a tweet which showed the same hat on a construction worker’s head facing the other direction.

Pointing out the bill of the hat, the Snopes article then accused the construction worker of being the one wearing the hard hat wrong, rather than that Biden wore the hardhat backwards as shown in the photos of him wearing it backwards.

“Do construction workers sometimes wear their hard hats backwards? Yes. But to do so, the internal suspension has to be reversed to fit correctly, which explains why, when Biden donned the hat with the brim forward, the nape strap ended up on his forehead,” the original article concluded.

One X user pointed out the logical flaw fairly succinctly. “So the nape strap determines if on correctly??” wrote X user Vapid Surplus. “Thx.”

There were many other reactions.

Eventually, Snopes responded to the feedback by reversing their ruling on the photos of Biden wearing a hard backwards to True.

The updated article contained an editor’s note, explaining the complete 180.

So ultimately, the fact-checkers ruled that the obviously backward hat was backward after all, and that the photo of Biden wearing a hard hat backwards was indeed a photo of Biden wearing a hard hat backwards. But only after some convincing.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Pointing out the bill of the hat, the Snopes article then accused the construction worker of being the one wearing the hard hat wrong, rather than that Biden wore the hardhat backwards as shown in the photos of him wearing it backwards.

Fact-checking in a nutshell kelly

[–] [email protected] 43 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Is it the seasoned professional who knows how to put on his own hat? No. It's the senile old man doddering through a ten-minute photo op.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I... hey, listen here, Jack, we uh... in my day... Corn Pop told me to wear it like that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

God could my dad wear a hat

[–] [email protected] 44 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I really want a list of snopes and politifact being utterly wrong. It would be awful to read through, but so satisfying

[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago

Snopes tends to be better about apolitical stuff.

I'm surprised politifact is even a thing anymore. I remember them throwing up obvious bullshit going back to the Obama Administration.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 45 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

That is NOT poop running down the president's leg. Stop being mean! kitty-cri-screm

*spends four hours writing article on how it's not poop* maddened

Edit: Okay, it MIGHT be poop. sadness

[–] [email protected] 38 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Every Snopes article now is like "well it's true but I don't care. Verdict: FALSE"

[–] [email protected] 36 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Counterpoint: why the hell is this a story in the first place

Biden wore a hat backwards. Awesome. How does this affect anyone’s life whatsoever

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

Because Caleb Howe has thin skin and couldn't just have a laugh.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Is this like the american version of rishi sunak having absolutely no idea how to use a contactless card machine when he tried to do a photo op at a petrol station?

I can see how these blow up. It's a moment that shows how utterly separated their lives are from the average working class person.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

I did that not too long ago lol. Some girls at McDonalds had to show me how to use it.

I'm working class, I just use cash and my old card most the time lol.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I dont get how this became a story and I definitely dont get why they have to bullshit so hard.

Construction workers do wear their hard hats backwards all the time... I used to wear my hard hat backwards all the time. There is like no chance I am not flipping it backwards for a photo op. My long time superintendent has had his brim backwards since he was a labourer...

Like why didn't team Biden just respond with "dudes rock".

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

You wore it with the nape strap on your forehead?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago

this is the insane thing about spectacular politics. like, we know joe biden is not a construction worker, has never worked in a factory. everyone from the pols to the workers to the media to the viewers knows what the phrase "photo op" means. we feel outrage not because they're showing images that lie to us, but because we feel that the lying is being done lazily and incompetently. we're hurt that they're paying a team of handlers and consultants million-plus salaries and not one of them thought to interrupt the photo shoot and tell the president to turn his hat around.

zizek-preference

in a shensh we are all in the Bluey Fandom sniff

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago

When sitting around doing fuck all or say taking a photo, Heck yeah.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago

Please god let this result in the klob getting whacked via car bomb.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago (2 children)

this is the kind of shit they would have called a "gaffe" in like 2008 lmao. This would have been the top news story on every network for a week.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago

I mean honestly as much hate as I have for obama-drone this would've been a bigger story if he did it. Mostly because of the racism but also because Biden does dumber shit than this on a weekly basis.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago

It's so weird to think how different it was. Howard Dean made a weird yell and it was the main story for like 2 months. Mitt Romney said he had binders full of women and it destroyed his whole campaign.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Imagine this being Biden’s Dean scream moment lol

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago

:biden-hard-hat:

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

Nice to see that wearing hard hat backwards is the major problem there.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

Independent urban legend tracking and fact-checking website Snopes

is it though?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

If they're lying about something as pathetic as this, what serious things are they lying about? I remember shitlibs trying to own people on Twitter using snopes and it cracked me up every time.