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In-N-Out Burger says it will close its first location in its 75-year history due to a wave of car break-ins, property damage, theft and robberies affecting customers and employees alike at its only restaurant in Oakland, California.

The fast-food burger joint in a busy corridor near Oakland International Airport will close on March 24 because even though the company has taken “repeated steps to create safer conditions our Customers and Associates are regularly victimized,” Denny Warnick, In-N-Out’s chief operating officer, said in a statement Wednesday.

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[–] [email protected] 117 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (15 children)

Oaklander here. Shit has really gone downhill over the past decade. Tents started popping up about 15 years ago, and now some parts of town honestly make District 9 look nice. I see stuff in this down that I never thought I would see in an American city.

Edit:

Context: this is what I drive through to get to the hardware store. This street view is 3 years old. It’s actually worse now.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/z3NLJ4wMLqRYc58o9?g_st=ic

[–] [email protected] 43 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I clicked that thinking it would look like the bad parts of Paris. I was not expecting the bad parts of Fallout

Jesus fuck

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

My guess is that the map view folks are too scared to go back now. That thing is 3 years old.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Crazy how a place with so much wealth can have so many people living in destitute.

I guess that's what we get when we're just passing a bunch of money around at the top.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

All that wealth is owned by a minuscule fraction of the population. The rest of the 99% are poor.

I get tired of hearing that America is a wealthy country. It’s not the people that are wealthy. It’s just 1% of the population that is wealthy. The rest are poor and just a single missed pay check from being on the street like the people in this photo.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

the one creates the other. the middle class is being gutted by the super rich, while congress is paid handsomely to do nothing about anything.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago (2 children)

There’s actually a reason for it. The western Supreme Court (the court you go through before the US Supreme Court) made a ruling about a decade ago that all unhoused people can’t be removed from somewhere if there aren’t enough beds in the city for all unhoused people. So basically we can move guy #5 because there aren’t enough beds in shelters for 2,752 homeless people. Recently even Gavin Newsom was asking them to repeal the decision and was banding together with other western state governors and city mayors as they all say the ruling is unfair.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like they should be building shelters not trying to repeal a law that is designed to help people.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

As soon as we have enough shelters, cities will bus in more homeless.

I'm not made at homeless people. I'm mad that the system is creating almost normalized homelessness. And then that that creates political football.

They're people. We forget that too easily.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Having been homeless myself, referring to homeless people as "uNhOuSEd" does absolutely nothing but make you feel a tiny bit more morally superior

You're making zero difference

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Omg it has images from 6 years ago and 7 months ago. The difference is absolutely mind blowing. But also in general, to see how it looks now its just so depressing. I've been reading a book right now that's based in the 1930s and this looks and feels like the Hoovertowns they describe.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It’s really wild. I noticed the lot was up for lease in 2017 also. I’m curious what the story is.

My images wouldn’t show more recent than 2021. Maybe because I’m on mobile.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Contextualizing it with District 9 really paints a bleak dystopia

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's true. I drove truck down there. It literally looks like a warzone. There are clothes lines just hanging from cars everywhere in between tracks for cable cars. RVs on fire. Fires in trunks. It's like Robocop from the 80s was real. Stay the fuck away from International (used to be E14). It's not a good place.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I am willing to risk my life for the Sinaloa trucks in that part of town. If that’s how I go, so be it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Aite. Ill give you the food trucks. But I ain't even thinking about it at night.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

I honestly think that this kind of change is a big part of why my mom became radicalized into MAGA. The area she just moved away from was already bad when she moved there, but it went down hill in a similar way. Over the same time period, she began blaming liberal policies for the problems and became someone who says that Fox News is too liberal and sends me links to the Gateway Pundit as proof for things she believes.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I lived there from 2009 to 2016 and loved it. Was really cool, even though I lived in Ghost Town on San Pablo, no body ever fucked with me or my GF. I came back after 3 years abroad and was devastated to see how bad it became. Then I went back in the "post" pandemic and I could not believe my fucking eyes that it was even worse. Dramatically worse. Tbf so is San Jose and SF.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"But state wide averages have gone down, so your anecdotal evidence is worthless" every second clown in this thread.

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[–] [email protected] 104 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Ah yes just like all the other stores that "closed due to theft"

Oakland

But then again...

[–] [email protected] 71 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

People here trying to make this about masking bad business decisions etc don’t live in Oakland. I live here, it’s really bad right now.

I was joking with a friend that a lot of Oakland feels like a bad 80s dystopia film…like you know those scenes with hobos warming themselves around a burning oil drum, stripped and burned out cars everywhere, piles of trash, drug addicts and prostitutes wandering around, etc? That’s literally real life in a large part of east Oakland. Like I’ve swear to god seen a half dozen girls at one intersection twerking in the middle of the street on the yellow lines, and one block over is a 5 block long encampment (16th and international/ 12th st).

Like this shit is on Google street view! It’s not hard to find. Follow this road all the way down to Fruitvale ave, it’s like a solid mile of a 3rd world refugee camp.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/YTVNJW36gbYTJuY67?g_st=ic

[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago

I was about to comment that I lived in Oakland for 5 years and it really isn't that bad. Like any city, it has its bad parts that you need to avoid. But you cleared it up.

a large part of east Oakland

A large part of east Oakland is bad. Luckily, it's easy to avoid... but not if you already live there.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I see that No Trespassing sign is working well

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The crime stats and stories in this case are so bad they'd be comical if it didn't represent desperate people.

Since 2019, police have logged 1,335 incidents in the vicinity of the restaurant on Oakport Street — more than any other location in Oakland, the newspaper reported.

That number includes nine robberies, two commercial burglaries, four domestic violence incidents and 1,174 car break-ins, according to Oakland police data shared with the Chronicle.

I saw elsewhere that a guy got robbed there, came back to do a news interview, and got robbed again. The crime stats mean basically a crime a day at that location.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I like how they list a single-digit numbers for a few crimes and then 1,174 car break-ins. 9 robberies and 2 burglaries in 4 years is almost nothing, but sounds like car break-ins are basically constant.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Are police officers blaming all the defunding efforts that actually never happened yet?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 48 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I came in here to call bullshit. Then I saw it was in Oakland. Nvrmnd. Carry on.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 10 months ago (12 children)

Why not hire a security guard? This sounds like some packaged bullshit trying to blame downsizing on crime, just like CVS did a couple years ago.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Oaklander here. Crime might be down nationwide, but it is up a LOT here. It’s quite sad. Big franchises aside, a lot of small local businesses haven’t been able to withstand the crime wave. Lots of my favorite mom and pop places are closing up and saying that they just can’t deal with the cost and stress of continued robbery / burglary.

But as for this place, there are cameras and guards in that lot, as well as employees taking orders. People still smash and grab, even in broad daylight.

This part of town is really struggling, by the airport, and thieves know the rental cars are almost guaranteed to have luggage. No one that lives here is shocked by this news. This is not Walgreens locking up soap in a place with dropping crime. This area is legitimately struggling with some big problems.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (9 children)

Yeah it is, just like all that shit about how retail stores last year having to close because of crime AS CRIME WAS FUCKING PLUMMETING

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Poor Oakland.

Gas station nearby is even worse:

In-N-Out on GMaps

[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Sounds pretty par for the course for Oakland, tbh. The locals probably know better, but the airport ought to be notifying visitors that they can't be leaving valuables in their cars in that city. And that they're gonna want the insurance on their rentals.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

For real. I learned about this from a guy delivering my weed when we visited. That’s when I learned what biping was. Never would have known. “You dont want to rent a car in Oakland”

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago

Can't have shit in Oakland...

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Is this just another example of stuff that wouldn't even happen if cost of living was affordable to people not born wealthy?

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In and out owner was denying COVID procedure at a point, right? Suspect this is less warranted action and just another nut job carrying water for the crazy, hate machine on the right.

Didn't I hear this location was right by the A's stadium, and the A's are leaving, correct?

So maybe a business failing being covered by "out of control crime" just like how target and the retail Association got caught lying about the stores they were closing the to "out of control crime". Then it turns out... Oh, each of the stores they marked to close actually had other nearby target stores with higher reported crime rates, but what the stores marked for closure DID have in common was that they had lower sales.

Retail boils down to a real estate speculation guessing game. Executives are typically unqualified, privileged pretenders . They made the wrong guesses on store location, because they are incompetent, and now they are exploiting this moment - just like they price gouge through COVID. It's all a play to cover their failures.

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