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“We do sweeps for spam/scam accounts and sometimes real accounts get caught up in them,” Elon Musk wrote on X, responding to the temporary ban of at least 8 accounts, including those of a handful of journalists.

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[–] [email protected] 122 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Buying Twitter was never about him making money. It was about giving shithead, likeminded assholes, like him, a place to openly spew their vitriol hate speech without fear of bans or repercussions.

Delete your account if you have one; don’t share links to his site and FFS let’s stop allowing hatred to have an open forum or a place within proper society.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

It was disrupting the global left's only "safe" (quotes because Twitter deserved plenty of criticism for even platforming right-wing voices far before the Musk purchase) platform for discussion. Facebook/Meta made a pretty big showing of aligning themselves with the right in the 2016 elections. Twitter was the only major online space for left-leaning individuals to discuss, except maybe Tumblr or Reddit which had a fraction of the users that Twitter did.

Do you think it's a coincidence that the left-wing bloc (in the US, at least) has become so fractured since the Twitter takeover? It was all by design, Musk and the Saudis who bankrolled him never cared about making money off the platform. When you've got $220b, you can waste $40b without noticing.

Not that I ever cared for the site in the first place, but the loss of Twitter in the leftist community and lack of any majorly-adopted replacement will have tremendous impacts on the left's ability to coordinate action for years to come.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Do you think it's a coincidence that the left-wing bloc (in the US, at least) has become so fractured since the Twitter takeover?

It's been fractured since long before that. The fracture started around the Occupy Wallstreet movement.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Leftist movements have been continuously attacked, suppressed, and fractured since the '60s (see also: the assassinations of MLK Jr. and Fred Hampton), if not earlier.

Nevertheless, the subversion of Twitter is particularly significant.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Almost as if they spend significant time and effort strategizing how to interfere with threats to their dominant position 😕

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Leftist movements have been kept fractured in the US since the start of the 20th century. The lefts accomplishments peaked in the 1930s and 40s with FDRs new deal. And has been on a steady fractured declined since.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Are you familiar with the phrase "divide and conquer"?

Ask yourself how come there is always these fractures appearing out of nowhere as soon as leftists organize?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Well, a big part of it is that leftists are a coalition not a monolith, unlike Republicans, who all just voted for their team no matter what.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

He bought it to make it the christofascist heaven on earth.

Before he bought it Twitter was a pretty lefty friendly place, since he took over there, conspiracy theorists and neo-nazi-fascitoid rethoric has took over all the place.

I've got banned like two days after he bought it LMAO.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 10 months ago (3 children)

But all these journalists will continue to use Shitter as their main platform

[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago

Yeah I’m sick of them feeding into it

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I wish everyone else would just quit. It's so much easier than people think to switch platforms for anything

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Seriously. Just as many people don’t listen to my ravings on firefish/mastodon as they did on Twitter.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 10 months ago

Only the most gullible rubes have alarms raised. Every sensible person has already moved on and is ignoring the clown show. Stop using that shit.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 10 months ago (12 children)

X is Truth Social 2.0. At this point, anybody who doesn't delete their account is a motherfucking Nazi.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

I don't think this kind of broad generalization is helpful (FWIW, I deleted my account the day the sale was finalized)

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 10 months ago

Fucking migrate to Mastodon already!!!

[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 months ago

What about "I want twitter to be a bastion of free speech?" And all of his cronies screeching "Musk is just preserving the first ammendment!!1!¡"

Looks like the quiet part is now being said out loud: "for Nazis and fascists"

[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago (5 children)

For fucks sake just switch to mastodon already

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago

Why anyone is still giving any legitimacy to that alt-right shithole is beyond me anyway. It should be clear to any journalists by now that Twitter is a dead-end.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Easy solution to that: Stop using it.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (7 children)

The problem is that we're scattering. A handful to Bluesky. A smattering to Mastodon. A pittance to Lemmy. Building a unified community on a single platform again will take years.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Most clued-in people have moved to Mastodon as the Twitter replacement; it just hasn’t been fully noticed by the mainstream as the new platform. But a lot of the journalists etc are there. Unifying the Lemmy platform with the Mastodon platform to make them interoperable for real seems like it’d be a really good thing.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hopefully what emerges will be harder to dismantle at least. Especially since it seems there's a vested interest in killing these unified communities.

Our best bet right now is the EU at this point.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

That's how Linux happened. Microsoft got so good at eliminating competition, and so lazy about making a product that was more than barely-passable, that it created a unique combination of "we want something good" and "something good cannot be constructed" that drove a whole generation of techies to get familiar with Linux simply because there was no good alternative for certain types of serious computing. The selection pressure of "any competitor company will get destroyed" eventually produced a competitor that wasn't a company.

I think that's what's happening right now in social media. For a long time ActivityPub went nowhere, and then the big players all got so godawful that you couldn't ignore the godawfulness, and now look what's happening. It's not because Mastodon and Lemmy are great "products" as such; mostly, people just want something that's not shit. Then in the longer run the selection pressure will create something that'll be a lot harder to kill or control.

It would have been easier for Facebook and Twitter not to be shit, but apparently that's too much to ask. I think the ultimate outcome will be way for the better this way.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Linux also only has a 15% market share if you include servers, while Twitter was the place for journalists to give up-to-the-minute updates. It's going to be difficult to get people to get away from that, just as it's difficult to get people to stop using Windows.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago

Why are they on there? It was obvious long ago that it's a liability having an account on that service.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

the alarm has been raised for quite some time. why are these articles written like they’re unaware of the past?

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Why would anyone would still be on Xitter blows my mind.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Ironically it’s probably because they feel at home, appreciated and valued in their own safe space. (There’s also probably quite a few increasingly unhappy almost technologically-illiterate legacy users who just need a helping hand to make the move.)

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago

musk waking up in the morning should raise alarms...

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

There is no reason for anyone to still be on that website unless they're Nazis. Full stop.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

STOP.

USING.

TWITTER.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

"Oh we weren't doing this out of malice... we're simply so incompetent we accidentally ban legit users!"

Oh yeah, great alibi. I totally believe that on the site where reports for rape threats, racism and calls for genocide regularly are stated as not breaking community rules your stringent automods might accidentally ban legitimate users.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

And those legitimate users just happen to be a bunch of journalists. Somehow.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

It's simple. Stop using X. Switch to Mastodon.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

So the free speech absolutist/human shaped turd is censoring journalists again? I'm shocked!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

Why are people still using that dumpster fire?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Elon: Yes, we do occasionally do sweeps for the Jews, I mean journalist, I mean terrorist.....

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