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The Journal reported executives at SpaceX worried Elon Musk was on drugs after an "unhinged" all-hands meeting in which he slurred and rambled.

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[–] [email protected] 237 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This is the way he’s always been and it’s only getting worse.

Employees have always had to manage him not the other way around; a perpetual petulant toddler banging his hands on the table; ruining everything he touches with his Reverse-Midas-Touch so they keep him at bay.

[–] [email protected] 106 points 10 months ago (5 children)

This is increasingly the characterization of so many rich and powerful people.

Soooo weird…

[–] [email protected] 64 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you have money, then in the business world you have intrinsic value.

When you have enough, you reach the tipping point where it doesn't just need to be the only thing you provide, but it outweighs others ways you hurt the business.

The less your ideas are useful and the more money you hoard, the faster it changes.

It can go quickly downhill when the CEOs wealth is tied to stock price.

And ends disastrously when they go somewhere that workers aren't used to them. Because the CEO was never told they used to be babysat just for their money, they legit believe they're a genius

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago (9 children)

You have to think who gets that wealthy and is like "Let's go to work!" You have to be psychotic to have more wealth than you can ever spend and not go fuck off somewhere and enjoy it. I would never go back to a job even if I was running the place, I'd just do whatever I wanted to do for the rest of my life.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 10 months ago (2 children)

We call it the Mierdas Touch.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Phony Stark and his Mierdas Touch. nice

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[–] [email protected] 144 points 10 months ago (10 children)

At SpaceX, where illicit drug use could jeopardize the billions of dollars of government contracts enjoyed by the defense contractor due to federal regulations, The Journal's reports of Musk's drug use put at risk nearly $1 trillion in assets held by investors, about 13,000 jobs, and the future of the US space program.

And I thought Twitter was going to be his biggest fuck up.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 10 months ago (2 children)

And of course, businessinsider doesn't blame the rich guy... they blame the 'snitch'

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[–] [email protected] 127 points 10 months ago (5 children)

We can excuse the racism, the transphobia, and the antisemitism, but we draw the line at drugs!

[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago

That can lose them their security clearance and government contracts, so kind of a big deal.

The racism and transphobia and everything else can be ignored because it doesn't affect their bottom line in the society we live in.

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[–] [email protected] 118 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

with one executive describing the event to the outlet as "nonsensical," "unhinged" and "cringeworthy."

This is different from normal?

Also:

SpaceX also began cracking down on illegal substances at the company by bringing in drug-sniffing dogs, sources told The Journal.

How much do you want to bet those dogs are never allowed up in the executive suites?

[–] [email protected] 77 points 10 months ago (2 children)

What kind of company has such a bad drug problem that they need to bring in dogs to find it? Absolutely ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I'd probably be shooting up junk too if my boss was Elon Musk.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago

It's always projection.

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[–] [email protected] 111 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Guys let's not make taking drugs look even worse by association it with that guy

[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago

Drugs are the innocent bystander here.

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[–] [email protected] 103 points 10 months ago (9 children)

... Musk's drug use, which includes LSD, cocaine, ecstasy, and ketamine, ...

Explains....soooo much. Still an asshole, though.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yea... You kinda' have to be a real piece of shit to be on that many drugs and still be an asshole. Good ol' musky.

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 10 months ago (7 children)

It’s news sure but is anyone thinking it’s groundbreaking news that Elon musk might be on drugs most of the time?

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 10 months ago (17 children)

The guy was a decent salesman, heavilly empowered by daddy's money and connections, who had a bit of luck, even though he only had one kind of salesmanship technique - the Techbro Brew: heavy on selling "high-tech" and "innovation" as inherently good and always trumphing other considerations - and kept walking the grey legal area between lies, exageration and Fraud.

However he seems to have started believing his own schtick that he's a special golden boy whose farts smell of roses, and here we are now.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Know this: having that amount of money is deeply not normal. None of us could do it. We'd save people. We'd build things that helped instead of giant toys. Billionaires are a type of sociopathy. And this guy's got it bad.

100% tax after 999 million. Full stop.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I will admit, him being on drugs did not occur to me as a possible explanation for his 'taking tesla private' tweet that torpeedoed his networth, but having been confronted by it now I am having a hard time not believing it.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 10 months ago (14 children)

Musk's drug use, which includes LSD, cocaine, ecstasy, and ketamine, according to people familiar with the matter, is at the center of an extensive new report from The Journal that details how executives at several of the billionaire's companies have struggled to manage his substance use and erratic behavior.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And? Its only a crime when regular people do it, for rich people its just 'eccentric'

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Has there ever been an all-hands meeting where the CEO was not cringeworthy?

I just assume it's the minimum amount of yearly cringe you have to endure to stay employed.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hasn't he been relatively open about his habitual micro and macro dosing of ketamine?

[–] [email protected] 41 points 10 months ago (3 children)

There's a world of difference between a micro and a macro dose. You don't want to be anywhere near work with the latter.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 10 months ago (3 children)

The difference being, with one you get a light, pleasant, happy, drunk adjacent feeling. With the other, you're sitting on the ground staring into the infinite void of nothingness, head lolled to one side, while your friends dab the back of your neck with a cool towel, hoping you don't puke and asphyxiate on it.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago (11 children)

I'd argue that once you are feeling effects of the drug, you are no longer micro dosing.

Micro dosing started out as a way to describe the maximum amount of substance you could take without feeling primary effects.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 10 months ago (24 children)

Imagine the power trip that comes from being Elon Musk's Dealer.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't he slur and ramble most of the time? I have never heard him make a sentence without stuttering.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Which means this must’ve been really bad for it to stand out so much.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

If you watch the recent hour long interview where he told advertisers to fuck off, something seemed off about how he was talking then as well. I've watched my fair share of interviews and what not with him and even I thought something was up there.

Not saying it's drugs, but something is going on with him

Edit: late edit after watching the all hands in question. This didn't seem unusual for Elon and I didn't get the same weird vibes I got during the interview I mentioned above. They did cut off the Q&A though so maybe something happened in that. Also the whole thing seemed unneeded. More of a public facing thing for people/media and not an all hands.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 10 months ago

What would be scarier is if he wasn't on drugs. Being on drugs means that there is a "normal state" for him to return to.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 10 months ago (15 children)

Companies perform drug checks for a reason. People who lead large organizations while regularly getting off on drugs are usually the biggest psychopaths around.

[–] [email protected] 81 points 10 months ago (12 children)

Drug tests are just to keep their boots on the faces of the workers. It's disgusting and invasive.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The higher up you go, the less likely it is that you'd be tested for drugs. We could empty board rooms if we insisted on drug testing at that level.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Given that SpaceX is a private company, where Musk owns the vast majority of voting rights, I'm not sure what can be done here. The same goes for Twitter, and I doubt Musk is stupid enough to have bylaws in a company he bought 12 months ago that would oust him for drug abuse (although I would fucking love it!)

Tesla, though, is only 21% owned by Musk (assuming Wikipedia is up to date). While it's tight, I imagine the board could request he take a drug test, and if he refuses/fails, call a vote to remove him. Given that Tesla execs have been worried about his unhinged behaviour for years, it could be the blessing they've been hoping for.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

These are the same people that let him fire a car into orbit around Mars with an "empty" space suit in the driver's seat.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Wdym "empty"? Did he sneak a person inside or something? I wouldn't put it past the guy.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago (7 children)

I really do think he started doing drugs a few years back.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 10 months ago

He smoked pot on Joe Rogan's show.

He doesn't seem like the sort of person who can have the self-control to stop there. He's try uppers and downers and anything else to make himself feel good now that people are calling him out on his bullshit.

The dude was on top of the fucking world in February 2018 when he launched his car into orbit. In July of that year, he called a guy a pedo because the guy said Elon's toy submarine idea was worse than useless.

If he had kept his dumb mouth shut, we would all still mostly believe in Elon's bullshit myth.

Instead, it's mostly common knowledge that Elon is a narcissistic man baby, and has been for his entire life.

He would rather we didn't know about the emerald mine, but everyone knows. We know he bought his way to every success he's ever had, and that he has zero natural talent.

And that has to drive him mad. So he does drugs and plays video games to escape from reality. A reality where he isn't loved, and is actually viewed as the prime example of the problem with allowing billionaires to exist at all.

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