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[-] [email protected] 78 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Consumer demand for content will continue, it’s just a matter of how they will access that content going forward."

pirate-jammin

I wish some of these corporate analysis articles would mention how the inclusion of advertisers directly effects the downgrade of show and platform quality. It's hard to have a show speak to the pains of the American foreign policy and healthcare system when it's bankrolled by defense, oil, gas, and pharma.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

My wife and I started to watch a where the main character was a heroic ICE agent who flew around breaking up a child sex trafficking ring. We couldn't finish it. I can often suspend disbelief when it comes to cop shows by pretending it's set in a fantasy world where cops are somehow good, but claiming ICE are somehow fighting to keep families together is too much.

Also the show las lurid and voyeuristic in the most upsetting way possible.

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[-] [email protected] 49 points 2 years ago

Piracy is and always will be a service problem and nothing else. If you price things fairly and make them easy to access people will pay. If you don't, they won't.

Capitalism doesn't allow for fair pricing though, it demands ever increasing profits and that demands ever increasing prices or ever decreasing services... usually both. It is a snake forced to consume itself forever

[-] [email protected] 32 points 2 years ago

Also crazy how even though there are so few media companies, streaming has become so fractured that it destroys ease of access. Some shows and movies aren't even completely available on a single service.

[-] [email protected] 47 points 2 years ago

Gabe Newell had a point when he argued piracy was a platform and distribution problem.

We saw the piracy community practically collapse in the last decade or two as a result of streaming platforms having really good deals, subscriptions being cheap and easy access to huge amounts of content.

Now we're seeing pullback as enshittification happens to these previously good services and people return to piracy as they no longer solve the distribution and platform issues.

I'll probably get some flak for calling these services good but they really fucking were originally and that's why they killed rental markets and changed so much so quickly.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago

Netflix as it was when founded was truly a great service, lots of movies and shows from various sources, and it was relatively cheap

If they didnt sink so much money into producing their own content, I think it would have kept some quality today even with the big fracturing of streaming services into a million different platforms

[-] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago

They would've lost all their licenced content and been left with nothing. That's why they pivoted.

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[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

the media monopolies saw their success and undercut them by fencing all their content off behind their own streamers. netflix could've pivoted international (and to some extent has) but the original product in the US was doomed from the moment everyone realized it was a good idea

[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Hell, I was one of those. I used to torrent movies and TV shows, or stream them off numerous shady servers via Kodi. Then once legit streaming became viable options, I figured paying a few bucks a month is well worth not downloading a potential virus or risking getting kicked off my ISP for torrenting.

The thing that pisses me off the most about the enshittification of these streaming services is the ads. Being able to watch stuff ad-free was my biggest draw factor for paying a few bucks a month. Then they started putting ads at the beginning of a stream. Fine, whatever, I was ok with that. Now they interrupt what you're watching every 10-20 minutes with 30, 60 or even 90 seconds of unskippable ads. It's especially infuriating if it's during a movie. Also, the fact they're doing all this shit on top of raising prices.

Time to start flying the skull and crossbones again.

[-] [email protected] 47 points 2 years ago

The streaming wars have been so funny because it really is just media conglomerates rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.

[-] [email protected] 32 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

“Sinking? My ~~end of the ship~~ profits are higher than ever!”

[-] [email protected] 29 points 2 years ago

Streaming was an attractive proposition to viewers when subscriptions were relatively inexpensive and content libraries were vast. But there are more companies with streaming platforms, and they have been steadily raising prices, making it less affordable for fewer options.

Bro, what the fuck is capitalism even? For streaming, at least, more competition has led to a more expensive, shittier product in every day.

Here's the fucking invisible hand jagoff

[-] [email protected] 25 points 2 years ago

Competition leading to a better product at lower prices is capitalist propaganda not borne out in the real world. Its depressing libs believe it cause they stand by while public services are dismantled and privatized. They fall for it every time.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago

More competition leads to higher prices

Less competition leads to higher prices

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

Oops... All Rent-Seeking

[-] [email protected] 27 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Gone are the days of companies shelling out untold riches to create content and pay for top-notch talent in the hopes of attracting new customers; now they're under pressure to actually turn a profit. That means less new content, more ads, and higher prices.

Weird that they don’t mention cheaper shows as an option. Last week I got around to watching Rings of Power. It was… okay. Didn’t think it was great or anything. But I thought I saw the show cost $500 million (maybe that includes rights for more shows, either way it was really expensive). Likewise, Star Trek Discovery is considered pretty mediocre by most Trek fans - certainly not as good as TNG or DS9. And yet I bet a whole 26-episode season of 90s Trek cost as much as a single episode of Discovery ($8-10 million). These streaming platforms are spending ungodly amounts of money on these shows but no one is really blown away with the results of what they’re spending that money on.

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[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

Funny, I love LOST but it’s often forgotten how much that show changed TV. I’d argue maybe the two most important shows of the last 25 years are LOST and Survivor (Survivor is mostly forgotten now but that was the show that launched a thousand reality shows).

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

This is very true. From a macro perspective those are prolly the two big ones. An argument can be made for Big Brother as the patient zero, but survivor has much bigger reach

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

That makes Real World and Road Rules the ur-Big Brother.

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I bet a whole 26-episode season of 90s Trek cost as much as a single episode of Discovery ($8-10 million)

I was curious so I did some research. The costs:

TOS: $190,635 per episode ($1.7 million when adjusted for inflation)

TNG: $1.3 million per episode ($3.3 million when adjusted for inflation)

Discovery: $8 million per episode ($9.8 million adjusted for inflation)

Definitely more, but considering that Discovery's seasons were half as long (13 episodes per season to TNG's 26) and could thus allocate twice as much of the season's budget to an episode, it's surprisingly not that much more. About 50% higher.

They still should have taken some of that CGI budget and spent it on the writers, though.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Wow, didn’t realize TNG was that expensive.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

Half of the budget was for Roddenberry's cocaine.

[-] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago

I’ve started buying stuff on Blu Ray. I own it, I can watch it offline, and some company can’t randomly remove it.

I suspect there’s going to be a mini resurgence of physical media.

For stuff I don’t care to own, and can’t find on the 2 services I pay for, there’s the high seas.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

(CW: SA mention)

How the hell is it that someone being conventionally attractive is "asking to be SA'd" according to the courts, but if someone pirate-jammind software because of all the rent-seeking, that's not 'asking for it'?

[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago

Pretty sure this needs a tag for SA?

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

and done, sorry for forgetting that.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago

based and not looking at screens pilled

Death to America

[-] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago

"For many years, streaming services offered subscriptions at rates that were enticingly low,"... But those rates were ultimately unsustainable.

This is me pointing at the entire Xbox Game Pass. I know a lot of people IRL that are all about it, but it's no secret that it's underperforming and with Microsoft sucking up key studios, there are very questionable things ahead.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago
[-] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago

The irony of this article existing behind a paywall and 150 cookies

[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago

They just reinvented cable

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

capitalism breeds innovation bro

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[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago

🏴🏴‍☠️🏴🤘🏿🤘🏿🖤

[-] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

I wish I had a good solution for pirating kids content

[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

Yeah kids shows just don’t get seeded very much.

At least for shows for younger kids, if you’re in the US the PBS Kids app is pretty great. I’m annoyingly particular about what shows I let my kids watch, and pretty much all the PBS Kids shows are cool with me.

I guess technically that app has ads, I’d say about half the time there’s like a 15 second ad that plays when you start the app but it’s basically fine.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Just download decades old kids' shows that are still being seeded by nostalgic olds think-about-it

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Imagining Videodrome but with 70s Sesame Street

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[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Radarr, sonarr, jellyfin, jellyseer, qbittorrent, vpn

Honestly, all the arr

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

Surprised this is happening. It seemed like people were continuing to at least keep the numbers stable even with everything they were doing.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Current media diet: physical media for older films, not watching new films, reading (physical books) a lot more, thinking of ditching streaming music because I'm tired of my once-carefully curated library getting enshittified by licensing changes.

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