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[–] [email protected] 56 points 10 months ago (6 children)

bearly anyone who's a boomer is playing these games or probs has ever played them short of seeing their kids boot it up. if anything these would be gen x shooters. People don't seem to even know wtf a boomer is. boomer for gen z seems to = anyone over 40 lmao.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The most Gen X move is to get overlooked, so this feels right to me.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

We'll just be over here in the corner. If anyone needs us, don't.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

I claim gen x. I'm outside the range, but I have more in common with that gen than either millennials (my actual gen) or boomers (what everyone calls me). I mostly listen to classic rock (late 70s and 80s), still whine about removed MtG rules from the 90s, and my first video game systems were the Atari and NES.

So if it's okay I'll just sit next to you. We don't need to talk or anything though, I won't be a bother.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I had a good laugh when I noticed this tag on steam yesterday.

I think the reality is, "boomer" as a term is here to stay and a moving target: as gen x ages into 40+, they'll become boomers. One day when gen Z becomes old, they'll be called boomers. At least here, there's a fun double meaning to the term. For me, I came into the Doom franchise at Doom 2, at an age where what I played was still very much influenced by my parents and friends' parents. So yes, Gen X were the primary player base, but it's not unfair to say the boomers often paid for the game and maybe sat down to a round or two of it. And given that, it might have been one of the last games they were able to sit down and enjoy. I don't know if anyone else experienced something similar, but my dad in the last 20 years of his life or so really locked in on the 1997 MTG: Shandalar game, and despite several computer upgrades along the way was never interested in any of the newer MTG digital offerings, preferring the cards and UI and experience he was familiar with. And while similar with Doom that game was played by many Gen X and Millenials, I think those demographics mostly continued to follow the franchise through newer releases: but maybe not the boomers.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think the reality is, "boomer" as a term is here to stay and a moving target: as gen x ages into 40+

This is a nitpick, but gen x moved into the 40+ age group long ago. As a gen Xer I'll be in my 50's later this year. 🤮

And yeah, doom is peak Gen X probably.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

In fact, millennials have begun turning 40 already. Not everybody agrees on generation cutoffs, but I don’t think there’s anyone who considers someone born in 1984 to still be Gen X.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

“boomer” as a term is here to stay and a moving target

Kind of like how "Millennial" for a while meant 'teenager' despite the oldest Millennial being 40.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Yup. I'm apparently a millennial to some people and a boomer to others. Go figure.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Technically, they’re all millennial shooters, because the entire genre was only invented in the 90s and mostly played by teenagers.

In fact, boomers started a whole episode of “satanic panic” about them after it turned out that the Columbine shooters loved to play DOOM.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

I wish this wasn’t the case. I’m im my 50s, my dad is in his 70s, we have a standing get together every week to play COD zombies. People sometimes look at me like I’m crazy when I bring it up, but we have so much fun. He’s played FPS probably more than I have. So many fathers and sons have lost their connections over the years, but as long as we can both pick up a controller, we are fucking some zombies up.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

I'm not sure if the name stems from the Baby Boomers or, like, "BOOM! Headshot!" Because Doom and even Wolfenstein were the games of my very millennial youth, and didn't exist for most of most Boomer's life time.

That said, my dad (who is a boomer) played the shit out of Doom and Heretic. But stopped when Quake came out and everything started centering around aiming with the mouse. He always used the mouse to move. 🤢

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I think it's just because they're old. I've got told "ok boomer" for complaining about lines of source code longer than 80 characters.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I mean, that's the exact response it deserves.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

120 is the limit for me. Anything longer is crazy pills.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

My boomer relatives skipped over DOOM and Wolfenstein and got into Duke Nukem.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's important to recognize some Boomers were born in 1946, and some were born in 1964, so there is quite a range in regards to how they dealt with tech in the early 90s

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Youngest boomer. Mainly playing League of Legends at the moment as support.

I’d like to apologise to my ADCs in advance - apart from the crappy ones.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Lol I thought the genre was called boomer shooter because you have an arsenal of guns that go boom while circle strafing and holding the mouse button.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Same, I guess I'm a boomer.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago

It's a perfectly cromulent genre

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I love these sort of games, Painkiller is my fav

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I hope you've seen the Zero Punctuation episode on Painkiller. It was the second positive review he ever gave, and caused the sales of the game to skyrocket temporarily.

https://youtu.be/qk7DlYcQ0uM?si=TeUzlBlIj53dwM93

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (4 children)

What was wrong with calling them doom clones? That’s what they were called until gen z made OK boomer a meme

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Because most are quake clones, not doom clones

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If you call the whole genre doom clones then that means Doom is a doom clone. Kind of like the problem with 'Souls-like' games. Also calling them clones somewhat diminishes the accomplishments and inmovations of the devs within the genre.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (6 children)

It happened with metroidvanias

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (13 children)

On a semi-related note: Is there a commonly agreed upon term for games like 'Vampire Survivors' yet and does it have its own tag on Steam?

So far, I've only found 'Action Roguelike', but that one has a lot of games that are, well, action based Roguelikes, like 'Binding of Isaac' and 'Risk of Rain'.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago

Bullet Heaven.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

I've heard it called Reverse Bullet Hell

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Horde something I think? Horde shooter is fps wave style games, so top down horde... Thing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I call them arcade style games.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Boomer shooter sounds like a game where you have both guns and grenades.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

They would be better called GenX shooters. Cheesy aaaand accurate!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That's really disappointing. Boomers did not make or play doom clones.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah but “Xennial Shooter” doesn’t have the same ring to it

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

How about "Doom-like"? That makes the most sense to me...

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Weird. Considering us folk born in the early 80s got lumped with millennial. I was playing all the doom and doom clones in the library in middleschool.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Yup, I'm a later 80s millennial, but I'm the youngest of four and my oldest sibling is at the top end of gen x, so I played lots of 80s and 90s games because that's what we had available (first consoles were an Atari and NES).

I played Doom as a kid and I played gzdoom as late as college with friends, it's great fun! In fact, if someone mentions "Doom" in a conversation, I think of OG Doom, not 2016 Doom.

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