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we were on the verge of electing a 30-year career criminal as the President of the United States, and if you do that, you're going to rot from the head down.
More projection. A 30-year career criminal is exactly what Trump is; as evidence has shown and proved.
Now, now, now. Trump is way more than a 30 year career criminal!
Sounds like he has zero remorse and is basically saying "My only crime is that I tried to stop an election stealing criminal".
The judge should double the ruling.
If these people don't keep doubling down, the maga base turns on them and they are completely screwed. They rely on the money from grifting those idiots and are no longer even remotely accepted by the adults in the room.
"Did it for my country" is the new talking point. Trump used it yesterday.
This is the rationalization when the narcissist is proven to have lied. "I was being selfless, making that sacrifice"
That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.
So that’s line four of the prayer? Moving along pretty well!
People like Giuliani, Trump, Netanyahu, etc. habitually conflate their own self-interest with the interest of their country.
Though it’s written “conflate”, it’s actually pronounced “willfully misrepresent”
And sometimes it's spelled "covfefe".
Admitting you committed a crime is not going to work out for you at trial...
"So when you said you 'did it for your country', isn't that an admission?"
". . ."
Next question would be: “Which country?”
Logically that would be Mother Russia, since no other country has benefited as much.
Oh shit wrong Georgia!
Oh nice. And what country might that be, Rudy? Because for sure it ain’t this country.
Russia, he did it for Russia.
From the article:
"I did it all for my country because I knew something my fellow countrymen didn't know, and that is that we were on the verge of electing a 30-year career criminal as the President of the United States, and if you do that, you're going to rot from the head down."
What a fucking idiot.
Does the Trump country club know any other rhetorical tricks? Or just projection?
that country would be Russia, and they are grateful Rudy
Hello, I’m the country. I didn’t want it.
you did it for yourself and your friends you fucking crook, and nobody but the left half of the bell curve thinks otherwise for even one second.
Do you think he believes it? Giuliani is an idiot but like, surely even the biggest moron can tell that the grift is just not working for him. I’d pipe down and try to minimize further financial damage, but maybe he’s a true believer.
Idk. I’ve never had my soul seep down my face in a black goop so maybe I’m trying to apply rational thought processes that don’t exist within him anymore
I don't think he believed it in the beginning, but I'm not convinced he has all his faculties anymore, so I think the line between grift and reality is getting blurrier every day for him.
Like butter melting in a pan.
Like hair dye running down an old man’s temple.
I don't think he's capable of just shutting the fuck up. Like his daddy trump, it's physically impossible for him to stop gibbering out bullshit.
“I am a proven traitor to America and attempted to oppress the will of its people because I am an American patriot and I love my country!”
This is the type of dumbassery that all the backwoods Cletus’es eat up. Guaranteed to earn his master a few extra votes.
"He dindu nuffin!"
-Cletus
So that's cool and all (well not really), but the time to raise a defense is at court. Of course, they don't simply let you say things, you have to produce the discovery materials.
What's that? That would be incredibly damning? So just take the verdict and whine? Sounds about right.
Lol. Welcome to the "find out" part of the story Rudy.
Get fucked
That poor poor victim, you see he had to overthrow democracy and frame innocent people because he didn't like the next president.
Just because you say you did it for your country, doesn't make it good.
Like the shit I took this morning, I did that for my country.
To your country, Rudy. You did it to your country.
Ah, admission of treason.
Sedition, not treason. He's attempting to usurp the legal government process through extralegal reasons and replace our current form of government with a different one. Sedition wasn't covered in the constitution, but the Alien and Sedition acts were passed during the Adams administration in the leadup to the War of 1812 (our real war of independence). However, the Alien and Sedition acts were passed before the Supreme Court pulled the power of Judicial Review out of its ass, and it's likely they wouldn't surivive a modern test for constitutionality. Doubt we'll see any Attorney General bring charges under those acts, blatantly unconstitutional laws tend not to work well against white criminals with money to defend themselves.
Treason would be acting with a foreign agent to overthrow the government. For example, one could commit treason by supplying classified documents (that were stolen from the White House and improperly stored in a bathroom) containing information about identities of field agents to agents of foreign powers, in exchange for monetary and/or political gain. Even though most people would consider such actions to be treasonous, treason carries the death penalty so it's hard to get it to stick. Usually folk who do that sort of thing get tried under the Espionage Acts. See Manning and Winter, imprisoned for espionage; vs the Rosenbergs, executed for treason.
If we're talking criminal action, I'd think Rudy should be tried under the Alien and Sedition acts, but more likely various state election interference statutes. Someone who will remain nameless has clearly committed treason & espionage, though I doubt we'll ever see his Orangeness meet the same fate as either Manning/Winter or the Rosenbergs, despite his causing significantly more damage to our nation.
Ok so now pay up
Not even his supporters are going to remember him as anything but a penis butler for Trump.
To MAGA their country, their America, is only for wealthy, white, male landowners. Nobody else matters in their view. Read any statement from tr*mp and team with this in mind and you'll understand their context. These people believe that the white man was God's gift to the New World, they are owed this and how dare we disagree!
On his Sunday WABC radio program, Giuliani congratulated himself for a “brilliant legal move” because he recommended that then-President Donald Trump take his rigged election claims to state legislatures instead of the courts after the 2020 presidential vote.
Incriminating yourself on your own radio show is more brilliant still.
we’re going to prove this one day
In other words after all this time and your people swearing up and down they've seen proof, the pillow guy trying to present garbage as proof, it is still not proven and you actually have nothing, not one piece of concrete evidence.
Yeah, fuck that guy.
can we let a future cell mate have a crack at it first?
I have never seen anyone so thoroughly disgrace themself as Rudy Giuliani.
Well, good for him for finally finding that hill to die on.
So, you know, you can die now.
nothing is better for america than undermining democratic processing
Yeah. I'm sure the country doesn't thank you for it, Rudy.
Giuliani congratulated himself for a "brilliant legal move".
Ok buddy.