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Reddit man has no standards. Like I kinda agree with him, State seal flags are boring af

But his extremely reddity argument of every flag has to have straight lines is so stupid. Colorado and Cali have beautiful and instantly recognizable flags. Even if the bear on Cali flag is a bit complex, you dont really have to draw 1:1

Joel is right here, the wavy one's the best. the star on others look a bit weird.

I love my simple socialist flags like USSR, πŸ‡»πŸ‡³ and πŸ‡¨πŸ‡³ but there is nothing wrong with more 'complex' flags.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My favorite Minnesota flag is still the one where it's California republic but a picture of a mosquito instead. Honestly I've been coming around to "all us state flags should be boring and samey because all the states are fundamentally interchangeable"

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

all the states are fundamentally interchangeable

As an Ohioan who lived on the west coast briefly - this is fucking hilarious

bring some Californians here and tell them it's basically the same, I dare you πŸ˜‚

idk, maybe it's different now, but right before I moved out west 20 years ago, I moved to Virginia for a few months and got roasted any time I called carbonated sugary beverages "pop" instead of "soda" or "cola." There were lots of other confusing differences around expected pleasantries and social obligations, too.

I think the people cheering for the balkanization of the US are onto something, because I see pretty distinct cultural differences between regions.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Not sure what area of California you were in but the only person I've ever heard say pop grew up in Oregon.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

its mostly a midwest thing afaik

edit: sorta, but its bigger than that

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Holy shit, this is why Pixar won't make Sodas

Most of the country wouldn't get it

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

nah they can solve it with a regional dub for the midwest

the south is fucked tho, the Coca-Cola company is gonna cease and desist them

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Then you clearly don't have a statistically-significant sample size.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

I can't tell if this is a bit or not

[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Flags should have weapons on them πŸ‡¦πŸ‡΄

Editing the California flag to have the bear rampant while holding a gun would rule

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think Angola's is technically a farming tool still.

Mozambique has a weapon πŸ‡²πŸ‡Ώ

Flags should have weapons on them

Hammer, sickle, and sword is extremely sus - mostly disagree on that one lol

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

What’s the sword one from?

Edit: nm, apparently it was suggested and Lenin argued against including weapons.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think hammer, sickle, and sword is typically used by nazbol groups, but I may be wrong.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

I’ve only ever seen the version that uses the nazi flag and replaces the swastika with a hammer and sickle, but with the amount of fascists with bad flags I’m sure somebody made the hammer, sickle, and sword version.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

so the MN loon with laser eyes flag then?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

That would rule

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Vexology nerds who worship those stupid flag assessment guidelines are the stupidest people on Earth. Literally coping and seething that they can't enforce their rules on sovereign states and pretending Nepal doesn't have objectively the coolest flag.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

idk Mozambique goes pretty fucking hard

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

i fucking hate CGP and reddit flag dudes "rules" so much. but i do kind of agree with straight lines--that wavy minnesota entrant was very unpleasant.

but my version of anti-wavy lines is only for the big solid-color bits. symbols--when they aren't a dogshit seal a governor's grandchild drew up in 1890--are great. California and South Carolina have the best flags in the union, and its because of their striking symbols taking center stage.

and i defend writing only if it declares the government type on the flag:

California Republic geordi-yes

Minnesota... what the hell is a Minnesota? is it a kingdom? geordi-no

e: oh and Colorado's flag sucks, the letter C is a dogshit "symbol"

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

oh and Colorado's flag sucks, the letter C is a dogshit "symbol"

i think the colors vibe

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

the colors aren't bad, the worst thing is actually the proportions. both of these are better than the official ones imo

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

i've always thought colorado's flag looks like a gas station logo

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

He also made a video going over what was actually chosen (#3 but they made some changes that I hope he hates just because he's a dweeb), but it's paywalled

The final flag:

I feel like the star changes are fine but I kinda liked the tricolor aspect

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

i hope they didn't drop the tricolour in response to that dumb tweet about the Somali flag, that'd be a pretty sad capitulation

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

internet-delenda-est shit why'd you have to remind me

That's totally why they did it. Or some version of that vibe ("it seems too foreign")

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The final flag:

wtf they took a good design and completely ruined it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

I don't know about "completely" but I would probably have preferred a tricolor yeah

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I disagree, the tricolor made it look too European.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

who cares it was a cooler flag. Pretty sure there's more tricolors outside of europe than in it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

In defense of what they went with, I think the solid blue is much less cluttered than the tricolor. Also, when you get down to what the colors represented, Minnesota doesn't have a monopoly on snow (white), or forests (green). What it is notable for though, is having an outrageous number of lakes and for being the source of one of the most important rivers on the continent.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

it'd have been faaaaar from the most cluttered state flag, and over-simplicity is boring. plain tricolor's are cool but anything else so simple just feels boring. Like, fair I guess but idk if I care if it has a whopping 5 elements instead of 3 shrug-outta-hecks

I don't really care what other people from other states find notable about MN tho, those are still super defining aspects even if they aren't totally unique. Though I'll admit to not having huge love for the exact shades picked. I still don't like the super light blue, that doesn't look like water to me it looks like an artificial, color-picker blue, too vibrant, and the green was kinda meh, probably because it needs to represent northern pine forest, southern deciduous forest, and farmland, all in one bar of one color.

Oh also I somehow got it in my head that the final star design was going to be rotated 22.5 degrees and be like this which I preferred, though it might have looked weird without the tricolor

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Also, my far more favorite reason

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

state seal flags aren't just boring, MN's is super colonialist and shit too (zoom in and peep the image of a stereotypical native man riding off into the sunset behind the colonist farmers)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

But his extremely reddity argument of every flag has to have straight lines is so stupid.

liberals are indistinguishable from soulless ChatGPT bots #3948230940238526

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

He is right that flags should only have straight lines and simple geometric shapes because the only interaction 99% of people will ever have with state flags is drawing them during busywork elementary school assignments.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

i did the same thing joel did :madeline-sadeline:

the worst was clearly the one on the left, ms paint looking fucker of a flag

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

We should do away with national flags altogether and have the flag of a given region be the personal standard of the executive. So the US flag would be Biden's coat of arms, and the Minnesota flag would be governor Walz's heraldic device.

Of course, this would only really make sense if we also did away with any pretense of democracy and just had noble families who would rule a given region for a long period of time. You know, just so the flag isn't changing constantly. Which I am also suggesting. Look, it's not my fault that an aristocracy is just more aesthetic. Also insert here Sideshow Bob rant about Americans wanting to be ruled over by a king.

As a joke. Ha ha. Unless... no, just joking. Unless?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

All state flags should just put their state bird on them

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

WHY COULDN’T THEY GO WITH THE NORTH STAR DESIGN, SHIT’S BEEN MORE WIDELY USED THAN THE OFFICIAL ONE SINCE LIKE THE 90S

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

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