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The removal of the Confederate Memorial at Arlington National Cemetery in Virginia may proceed, a federal judge ruled Tuesday, after finding groups who tried to halt it failed to prove that keeping the monument was in the public’s best interest.

US District Judge Ronnie D. Alston granted a temporary restraining order Monday, barring the memorial’s removal after a request for a preliminary injunction by the groups Defend Arlington and Save Southern Heritage Florida.

The groups claimed the Defense Department’s plan to remove the memorial violated the National Environmental Policy Act, and that the department had failed to take care of the grave sites surrounding the memorial site during the removal process.

But in an order filed Tuesday, Alston said the plaintiffs did “not establish that a preliminary injunction is in the public interest.”

“Plaintiffs’ complaints regarding the removal efforts being likely to damage the gravesites are misinformed or misleading,” the order said.

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[-] [email protected] 37 points 2 years ago

Melt it down and make it into toilets

[-] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago

Then install the toilets in the prisons where the Jam 6th insurrectionists are held so they're forced to piss and shit on their isola.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

It's being moved to another Confederate memorial instead of being properly disposed of.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago

Thanks to confederate supporter Gov. Youngkin. smh. At least it'll be out of Arlington.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Maybe if those memorials can be legally classified as garbage dumps everyone will be satisfied.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Sewage disposal makes our entire modern world possible. Without it we would see a near total collapse of our urban areas.
I don't know if I want the traitorous statue to play such an integral role in upholding society.
I say just grind it into dust and dump it somewhere in the ocean so it can't ever be part of anything again.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago

Good. We shouldn't glorify traitors.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

Or oppressors or losers. Germany has no issues remembering the Nazis despite the lack of Nazi memorials. They do have a ton of memorials to the victims though. That is something this nation needs more of. In Berlin, you can't go more than a few blocks without walking over a stumbling block which details the name, birth, and death of someone sent to a death camp. We should have that here. Every slave we know of should have a block in front of the plantation they were enslaved at.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

About 16 years ago, a friend of mine was getting married. I attended his wedding at a former plantation in South Carolina. (Nowadays, I'd question this decision, but it didn't occur to me at the time.) While there, I decided to take a tour of the grounds. After all, it was beautiful there and I wanted to learn about the history of the place.

That's when I realized how much they tried to sweep slavery under the rug. They referred to the slaves as "workers" and never used any term that would lead one to believe that they were "employed" against their will. If you didn't know US history and took that tour, you'd have pictured a group of men getting hired, working an 8 hour day, and collecting a paycheck. This was certainly not what had happened there.

I sometimes wonder if they've updated their tour. Would they today actually acknowledge what took place there or do they still talk about the "workers."

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Every slave we know of should have a block in front of the plantation they were enslaved at.

Instead, this is where we are... https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/texas-historical-commission-book-removal/

[-] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago

Anyone who cries foul over not venerating traitorous slavers makes their abhorrent worldview abundantly clear.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

Can we scrape that ugly ass carving off Stone Mountain next? That fight would be the shitshow to end all shitshows.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

From NC and never knew about that carving, now I'm just disappointed in my historical community.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Never knew that existed. What a discrace.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

Other figures on the monument include a Black woman depicted as a “Mammy,” carrying an infant of a White officer, and a Black man following his owner to war, according to the cemetery.

What the actual fuck.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

Save Southern Heritage Florida

Not all heritages are best to save. What would General Lee himself say both about trying to glorify that past as well as having statues to the losing side? I'll bet supporters either don't know, or aren't honest enough to admit they do know.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

Their "heritage" was five years long. The Obama administration was eight years long. Obama is more part of their heritage than the Confederacy.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Well, the thing they won’t say is part of that “heritage,” and won’t admit is the primary reason for the war, lasted almost 300 years. Mostly under the English flag. I always wonder why they don’t fly that.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

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