Robots are doing exactly all the things described because they are hazardous to humans.
LLMs are not robots.
Robots are doing exactly all the things described because they are hazardous to humans.
LLMs are not robots.
Physical AI isn't that good yet. It's getting better, but we are still at the beginning. AI hasn't been out of the AI winter for long; these things take time.
That being said, "dumb" robots already do a lot, and that will probably expand too with new AI support.
Real answer?
People who have access to the tools use it to do tasks they want to avoid. Sally from the civil team doesn't work in mines or under the ocean, but she does spend way too much time on PowerPoint slides and emails she doesn't actually care about. So she has Claude handle it so she can focus on her other work.
We have robots doing the dangerous jobs in this meme. Its just they don't do 100% of the work. They also don't do 100% of knowledge work either to this day. If you have an AI make you a power point and then you don't edit it and do quality assurance on it you are going to have one jank ass powerpoint.
Even if the crazy miracles its doing with decomp & recomp work on video games lately: that still requires a ton of human involvement.
They might eventually be able to do 100% of physical labor though. And 100% of knowledge work. They just are not there yet. The former requires use to have enough physical materials though.
But…robots are doing all three of those things?
Are you nuts, those robots are expensive. We don't want to get them dirty.
You get to replace a lot more cost when you swap engineers and artists for AI slop machines than you do when you swap manual labor for actual mechanical robots.
The people with the money to make the bots know this too.
turns out, a lot of manual labour tasks are too complex to automate easily. even if the work is repetitive and seems like it would be simple, there's a lot of things that you can't just stick a robot into and have it work
computer tasks, on the other hand.. it's a lot easier, and there's much better training data, and the stakes are theoretically (and often in practice) lower.
now, as for WHY we're not globally prioritizing automating the dangerous stuff completely, that'd be because money, I imagine
edit: I'm referring to semi-autonomous robots here, not general automation. automation in general is still going strong, as companies love to spend a few millions dollars to automate something so they save on many more millions of labour costs in the future. customers will buy a custom machine from us for a couple million and operator costs will halve while production doubles. the remaining half of the operator costs I mentioned to towards maintenance staff, which is generally a more skilled position than assembly line work. obviously my numbers are rough, but you get the idea
There's irony in how easy it is to automate jobs that are generally regarded as "higher ups", more intelligent as opposed to lower-tier jobs. And those managers and executives would likely be pretty bad workers.
I used to despise the thought of AI in the workplace doing my job for me
but after seeing what apparently above-average employees output.. I understand why it seems appealing
ex: sent my coworker instructions that made note of particular things, and a template file with clearly documented instructions inside the file. they used the wrong template file, not the one I explicitly sent the filepath for. they asked me to review the file. I made note of the issues that cropped up because they didn't follow the instructions. they asked me to do a final review. I noticed that some of their fixes to my notes did the opposite of what I asked, or were just ignored. like, yeah, AI can do just as well as that. but it can't do it properly, and that's what we need
When work is done by the underclass, human life is cheaper than maintaining complex automation.
BYD very famously invested in high end manufacturing equipment early on in it's history. But, in trying to maintain, upgrade, and expand the equipment alongside increased production demand, the senior managers discovered that this was significantly more expensive than just hiring and training more local machinists to build the cars manually.
They ended up downsizing their automated team and hiring/training a huge number of skilled professionals. This allowed the company to grow far more rapidly, while still implementing new changes to their models with minimal re-engineering of their production floor.
Now, BYD is one of the largest car markets in the world, and they are slowing moving back to re-automate jobs that have become consistent and routine.
Yeah, I recently watched some chinese robots dancing on america's got talent. What a world. smh.
Robots do, there is anlot of automation now in big mines, Copper be extracted in El Teniente mine in chile, in the middle of the andes and the "miners" can sit comfortably in a control room in the city of rancagua with a cup of coffee.
EDT: Altough part of the mine is still manned.
Technology isn’t there yet. Don’t worry, our overlords cannot wait to replace us with soulless metal that cannot unionize.
Allegedly the reason can be found in the published Epstein files. But the people told me never pointed me to an exact portion, though it was something in the lines of:
Can you operate these image recognition and similar systems in reverse? That could be used for art generation, and we could dethrone the left from its ivory tower.
Those robots are expensive! They're not gonna risk something worth so much on anything dangerous - let the worthless humans do that shit!
in trek they used androids and holograms to do the dangerous works in mines, until tech advances that far, i dont think its feasible with our tech.
I forget which roman senator it was, but in his writings he does say that it is better to pay free-men to work on, eg, malaria invested areas than slaves.
Why? you don't risk your Capital (slaves). Same thing here
Kill the meat, save the metal
Why don't robots do something useful, like transporting things, washing the dishes or my clothes!!1!
empties the dishwasher and hops in a car
They... are?
Yeah, as an automation engineer, I freaking hate this narrative. "I want the AI to do the dishes not write music"
You don't need AI for that, you have automation for it. further automation might be cool too, but the LLM has no place in doing a useful task like that.
You can tell most people making this narrative haven't ever been to a factory
I hate the ai boom.
We needed to continue to advance automation. Weve had it for years and its all we need. It just needs to continue to improve!
Why bring on this fucking massive philosophical and ethical issue in an already crazy world? What the fuck are we even doing here?
I was going to say the same. Robots are doing all that right now. But also that robots are not AI but robots can use AI. Don't need AI to do 90% of shit we need em to do.
It's pretty simple:
Robots are very expensive. And ones that could do this type of work cost even more. Nor are they smart enough to be able to reason ahead and envision danger. So they would get crushed in cave ins a lot.
Human males, and yes its vastly men that do mining, are cheap and in plentiful supply. They can do at least some rudimentary reasoning and will get crushed less often. And if you lose a few, well they are easily and cheaply replaced. Making them far more profitable to use.
As an aside, companies are designing and building robotic construction equipment these days. It's just that none of you hang around with such "dirty trades".
Turns out human-like kinesthetics is a harder problem than spreadsheets. Who knew
Why would I want to make PowerPoint??
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