Counterpoint: people who believe themselves to be immune to propaganda are actually the most susceptible of all.

ND people (specifically autism spectrum) disproportionately think they are more resistant to propaganda than NT people.

Ergo, ND people are on the whole more susceptible to propaganda than NT people. Especially propaganda that makes them feel superior

Disclosure: I am AuDHD

Everybody thinks they are immune to ads and nobody is

1. I hate the conflation of autism and ND. Autism is a type of ND. It's not the end-all be-all.

2. Marketing is first and foremost you being aware of brand^TM^ existence. Every commodity has thousands of brands competing for your attention. Just getting you to be aware of their existence is like 3/4 of the battle. It's a fight to not be a no-name brand but a brand^TM^ that you are vaguely aware of it existing.

3. Corpos absolutely target autistic people because an autistic person with disposable income who has adopted brand^TM^ as their special interest is a near bottomless goldmine. They will chase that whale.

If autistic people were immune to propaganda there would be no autistic anticommunists.

Nobody is immune to propaganda.

Nobody.

Marketing is about incepting or forcing a product into your brain whether you like it or not, so that if you are in a purchasing decision you are oriented towards choosing the one that got there first or is there in front of you first, to whichever degree you are aware of it or not. Whether by allure, or repetition, or product description and explanation, or placement and convenience (including mental availability, familiarity, heuristics, novelty vs comfort seeking, etc.), there will be a method or confluence of methods that works on you. It's not just ads. It will wear you down and you will be influenced in some way or form. You are not immune to propaganda, you are not immune to marketing.

(The example I like to cite is those irritating 5s KFC YouTube ads. They are designed to be irritating to deliberately displace the competition (Hungry Jacks, Red Rooster) both within the advertising space and within your active recall. Then, when you see a KFC ad in other locations you think of that irritating ad and it reinforces those neural pathways, further cementing it in your brain and locking out competitors whether you buy from KFC or not)

Yeah, this is absolutely not true. Otherwise Pokemon, Magic and Yu-Gi-Oh wouldn't have an adult fan base.

Advertising is like an attack on my sense, it repulses me when I'm forced to sit through an ad. I use ad blockers in my daily life, but my parents listen to the radio and the ads are insufferable, I have to leave the room when they come on. I don't know how they can bare it, ads are the most grating and inhuman thing you could listen to constantly.

Advertising is such a massive waste of labour. So many creative and hardworking people end up making fucking ads for the sake of selling product after product instead of doing something helpful to society. Imagine a world where you don't see ads 24/7, and the energy put towards making ads is used for actual communication with communities, art, education, fucking anything but advertisement.

It's awful. I hate advertisement so much I hate it I hate it I hate it

Hey, even Pat Tillman fell for the propaganda (with the worst possible outcome), so don't be too hard on yourselves.

It's probably the best propaganda in human history. Very had to switch it off in your brain.

Can't buy more things if you spent all of childhood without the agency to buy things and the first 8 years of adulthood without the ability, so you're conditioned to only spend money on shelter, food, transportation, and making sure you continue to have these things in the future.

Shelf placement has 10 times the purchasing effect on me that any commercial ever will. Worldview and subconscious is probably a different story tho.

I don't like it. I can imagine an autistic person who is less susceptible to a car advertisement about how cool you look driving it still being interested when they say it's the 2nd safest car with the 1st most fuel efficiency.

Then a lot of modern marketing isn't really introducing you to the idea of McDonald's, but more about giving you a couple seconds to think about McDonald's. Therefore next time that market sector is hungry, a larger (perhaps 0.3%) section of the fluid dynamic movement of people going out to eat will choose it over Wendy's this time. In that sense, an investor meeting where they admit that customers don't have any discretionary money left is as much advertising as a brand account commenting on a tiktok

Since most of the good discussion has been had already, I'll say that seeing ads outside on billboards while and bds is just a moment

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SEO is not meant to appeal to humans, it's not "human interest optimization," it is "search engine optimization". It is meant to take advantage of how search engines work and common terminology people use to have higher search engine rankings. Allistic people also find crass SEO writing annoying.

The third textbox in the meme looks like an AI summary, and either way I think it's basically wank. To the extent there is a difference in marketing working on autistic vs allistic people, it's just a matter of which tricks are more effective, and you can fry an autistic person's brain with pseudo-science just as much as an allistic person's. You can say that the phrasing means my statement and the textbox's are not strictly mutually exclusive, which is true but misses the point of what it means to be misleading, and the text still is clearly overgeneralizing about things not working on autistic people when it's just that some things don't work as well while other things that are also used also work.

Incidentally, this meme is an example of autistic people not being immune to extremely low-effort propaganda.

Monke sees ad:

Neuron activation:

Wouldn't know, haven't seen an ad in years

Also, back when I did see ads, I had no discretionary income

Maybe part of it is we aren't lucrative to target for general consumer goods, and we barely need to be targeted at all for special interests

I haven't seen an advert in years. I'm generally repulsed by most things too.