Yeah it was Eisenhower (thelemmy.club)
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[–] 130 points 1 week ago (23 children)

That was when republicans were the progressives and democrats were the conservatives, though.

Before the party flip, it makes little sense to refer to ‘republicans’ and ‘democrats’. Those labels changed, not only in their values, but what the ‘conservative’ and ‘progressive’ platforms even were at that time, since there were different crossover issues than in today’s society.

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  • [–] 34 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    Mmm it was mid flip. Don't forget that Republicans railed against Social Security that FDR was proposing.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 week ago*

    Before the major flip during the Southern Strategy of the 60s/70s, though.

    That’s sort of what I meant by crossover issues early on making even ‘conservative’ and ‘progressive’ muddy, even beyond ‘Republican’ and ‘Democratic’ being basically meaningless to our modern ears.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 week ago*

    There were plenty progressive Democrats back then, who do you think lead the New Deal and Great Society movements? The parties did not line up so neatly into "progressive" and "conservative" during this time. There was a lot more variety within each party, and both parties had both left- and right-leaning wings that often disagreed

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  • [–] 9 points 1 week ago

    That was when republicans were the progressives.

    While there was a party flip on social issues in the 1960's, Republicans from 1910's to today were the party of big business.

    Republican's opposed Unions, Labor laws, and the New Deal that created Social Safety nets and helped Labor over Capital.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (18 children)

    Yep. Conservatives (edit: the Conservative bloc of American politicians, not whatever other thing you're writing a snide reply about right now) came to be called that because they were interested in conservation of nature, before it came to describe fiscal policy or religious extremism. The conservatives of today are nothing like them.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 week ago (6 children)

    to my understanding, that is very much not true.

    the terminology of being a "conservative" did not come from supporting conservation of nature. that might be one aspect, and indeed, still today, there are conservatives that are very much interested in the conservation of nature, but this is not where it came from. it came from schools of thought in the american and french revolution concerning conservation of aspects of tradition, aristocracy, royalty, and religion.

    afaik, this has also been the case tbroughout american history as well. perhaps you are referring to people like teddy roosevelt, who identified as a conservative to the public and had conservationist views and policies.

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  • [–] 49 points 1 week ago (12 children)

    Many Eisenhower voters became Democrats when the GOP took a hard right in the late 60s/early 70s.

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    [–] 37 points 1 week ago (7 children)

    Does anyone actually know how taxes work in the US? Eisenhower didn't tax millionaires at 90% only the top portion of their income got taxed that high. The US has a progressive tax bracket system, look it up if you want to know more about us taxes than 99.9 percent of US citizens.

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  • [–] 61 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Nobody earned enough to be taxed in the top bracket. That was the entire point. To avoid that top bracket, businessmen lowered prices, or paid employees higher wages, or purchased tax deductible goods and services. What they didn't do was take additional profit, because the IRS would claim 91% of those profits. Everything the businessman did to avoid that punitive top tier was of great benefit to the economy.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 week ago

    I had to explain this to my retired parent, who worked their entire life handling payroll. It’s genuinely appalling that the system is so effective at keeping the public uninformed.

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    [–] 30 points 1 week ago (6 children)

    Republicans aren't conservatives anymore and no one should be calling them that. Regressives is the proper term.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    When this MAGA version started 10 years ago, they were called the "alt right". To me, GOP stands for "Gas and Oil Party".

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    [–] 28 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    He also massively expanded the CIA and FBI to target activists, destroyed Iran, was massively Homophobic (leader of the lavender scare) and was a huge Franco fan.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    Financial obesity is neurotoxic, an existential threat to any society that tolerates it, and needs to cease being celebrated, rewarded, and positioned as an aspirational goal.

    Corporations are the only ‘persons’ which should be subjected to capital punishment, but trillionaires should be forced to transition into billionaires, and billionaires should be euthanised through taxation.

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  • trillionaires should be forced to transition

    You want a trillion dollars so that you and all of your descendants can live in the lap of luxury for the rest of time.

    I want a trillion dollars so the government will forcefem me.

    We are not the same.

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    [–] 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    A little misleading but the general point is accurate.

    It was 91% on income >$200k. Adjusted for inflation would be ~$1.7M, according to Politifact. Still not at all a crazy amount of money. I mean that's well into the 1% earners.

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    [–] 18 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    He also whinged about the evil of the military industrial complex that he oversaw the permanent creation of. I don't like Ike

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  • [–] 13 points 1 week ago

    His administration also used the Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1956 to purposefully run highways through black neighborhoods, seizing people's homes and apartments through Eminent Domain.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Yea, google the southern strategy, racist fucknutz from the south took over the GOP and the parties flipped with the former GOP politicians becoming Democrats

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    [–] 11 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    Republican party was an idea about affordable housing.

    It's the broke ass lazy racist white bros who don't want to do more than mediocre effort and get handed a job over everyone else that thought this idea affordable housing in particular meant only for them. Yet They were easily brainwashed to think it was every other party that caused the lazy white billionaire bros yoinking out affordable housing and not giving them a job.

    They still don't see the connection.

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    [–] 8 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    2026 Progressives and DSAs are to the right of Eisenhower.

    The United States of America has long lost the plot, but then I've been reading up on it's shitty history. It may never have had the plot.

    This time, I hope the survivors throw the fucking Ring into the fucking volcano.

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    [–] 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    The last good Republican president.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Didn't he drop more explosives on Korea than was dropped in the entirety of world war 2 or something like that? He was directly responsible for the establishment of the military I dustrial complex.

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