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[–] 132 points 1 week ago (38 children)

I don't want to incentivize using tools made through stealing other's work then claiming it's for the people

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  • [–] 107 points 1 week ago (8 children)

    I'm 99.9% sure that Adobe and all other big tech companies are using LLMs to generate code. So it's slop either way, but one is at least free and open source

    Of course the established alternatives like Krita, Gimp, Inkscape and others are even better, no questions there

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  • [–] 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Can confirm, at least for Adobe Acrobat.

    There's an annoying popup ive had to deal with at work where it prompts to have AI summarize my document or some such. Takes up only ~5% of the viewing pane, but needs to be manually exited out of for EVERY document opened.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 week ago

    Air can simplify the agent part, but not the four-machine SSH part. At least not yet. Inside IntelliJ, Air can give you a single place to run Gemini CLI, Codex, Claude Agent, and Junie, including running agents in parallel (you can also add other ACP-compatible agents).

    So your workflow could be:

    1. In the Air prompt window, use Claude for a complex refactoring

    2. In the same window, use Codex for a separate implementation task

    3. In the same window, use Gemini for another task or review
      ...

    4. Become more dependent on the AI, atrophy gradually

    5. Think less, pay more

    6. Pay more, think less

    7. Pay more

    8. Depend more

    9. Pay more

    10. Give everything to those who run DataCenters or have unlimited access to LLM/AI

    11. Become homeless

    12. Devalue and obliterate your art and history

    13. Devalue and obliterate human art and history

    14. Depend more

    15. Depend more

    16. Depend more

    17. Become biomass

    18. Die

    …so infinitely much is getting devalued, dehumanized, ruined…
    …I’ve been a developer for more than 20 years now…
    …such an ineffably sorrowful time to live…

    Source (JetBrains Air: Building a System of Products for Agentic Software Development...) [comments]

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  • [–] 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Lemme be the first to say fuck Adobe and I've been sailing the high seas for their products since CS4, and it pains me to say this but Krita and GIMP have a long way to go before they can match the range of functionality on Photoshop.

    I genuinely really hope an open source project comes along to blow Photoshop out of the water but as someone who has been using it for 24 years, no one else is quite there yet.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    I think it's worth reminding people where the general left wing FOSS conscious was before AI. Every week we'd see an article that was the antithesis of ownership, from celebrating the end of Disney copyright to loopholes in trademarks and the like, it was the heart of a lot of content.

    There is a fantastic foreword foreword in The Picture of Dorian Gray from Oscar Wilde about art for art's sake that I think about a lot, which really boils down to a litany for art for art's sake, (and by extension education for education's sake), that is overlooked in favour of being for the sake of profit or capital.

    I am of the opinion that in response to AI, we have drifted from a left wing overall movement that rejected ownership in this way, to a protective, defensive style that is largely that stance of a neo-luddide, without any awareness of what ended that era, which was an insufficient boycott and misspent manpower.

    I want to say, I'm someone who is overall against AI, I'm not sure how to prove it, any any time I try to explain points like this, people claim AI wrote my comment.

    AI is evil, and has enormous destructive capacity, but making the walled garden of large capitalist software irrelevant in favour of FOSS solutions is a huge win, even in regards to being a result of AI.

    I'd rather the water, electrical and creative debt that is incurred by AI is paid off by programs like this, than see companies like Adobe operate, particularly considering they literally changed their TOS to train their internal AI on user data.

    Either way, your data is being used to train AI, regardless of if you use Photoshop or Photocraft, but one is FOSS, and openly made with that data.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 week ago (6 children)

    As i recall, the claim for the entire suite was that it was "clean-room". No code stolen... unless you are concerned that the entire model is the result of stolen code... in which case we are in agreement.

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    [–] 98 points 1 week ago (21 children)

    You realize there are non-ai alternatives?

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  • [–] 58 points 1 week ago (17 children)

    Yes but the Adobecucks have proven time and again they'd rather take ungreased Adobe pole than learn an alternative.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 week ago*

    Yeah but Adobe just works. Although recent versions suck hard. But there's nothing wrong with a pirated older version. As long as Adobe doesn't get any money it's fine for me.

    AI is just pure evil, which is harmful to the environment, water and power supply, and helps tech giants become even more powerful. Zero tolerance for AI.

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  • [–] 62 points 1 week ago
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    "The Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them"

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  • [–] 40 points 1 week ago

    They missed a big opportunity by not calling it Photoslop

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  • [–] 40 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child)

    Ever since AI reversed engineered Adobe products, we can now get it to run much easier on Linux natively. At least something positive is coming from AI. I'm not saying AI is the bees knees or anything, but i can't lie and say im not enjoying how we're now using AI against these greedy corpos who told us to get used to not owning our games and constantly shoving AI down our throat. Well, now we're using it just like you wanted! 😊 (well I'm still not actually going to unironically use it but you get what I meant lol)

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  • [–] 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    They're gonna keep coming after hardware ownership and jacking up prices like they've been working on. Even if you get an Intel Arc Pro card that's moderately affordable, you're gonna need a reBAR / Above 4G decoding compatible mobo to handle it, along with all the other system components that are already unaffordable for most.

    They're gonna buy up platforms like they did with Hugging Face to stop as much proliferation of the open-weight models as they can. And enshittify them ala every other thing they own

    No more tinfoil hats and excuses, this shit is happening and is gonna keep happening. If revenue can go up, they're gonna make it go up at any cost.

    The final cost may be deadly.

    Edit: for the record, I agree with you.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 week ago* (1 child)

    Yeah so this is how this shit gets normalized.

    Fuck Adobe yeah but don't fuckin use ai.

    Funny how the general mood for ai has shifted. Find an alternative or you're just another part of the problem

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  • [–] 30 points 2 weeks ago* (6 children)

    I believe it's disrespectful towards our history, irresponsible towards our future... or just inhumane... to "not care it's slop"...

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  • [–] 10 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    Yeah, if this is used as precisence then all open source software can be done dirty the same way. It's a dangerous legal precedent. Also, the slop machine stole code from many devs ignoring all licenses to create the slop.

    Its unsafe code which would do anything. I don't suggest running it under any circumstance either.

    Fuck man I'm so happy for this specific instance, fuck adobe, but I have to hate it.

    What would be cool, but won't happen, is if this kinda just forced out an essential "mit license for everything" wild west situation. It won't, corps will fuck ot, but would be cool

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  • [–] 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (13 children)

    Personally I don't need adobe or slop adobe. After many attempts and some effort I found that the non-AI open source alternatives were good enough, or in some cases even better, once I had a more open mind and stopped expecting them to be 1:1 to adobe.

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    [–] 24 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    Even a single use of AI we deem ethical is still ultimately, not.

    The models are trained on stolen material; modern day techno-colonialism.

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    [–] 18 points 1 week ago (22 children)

    Stop making poor excuses for using AI. both AI and Adobe are evil. Juts pirate photoshop, put in some effort and creativity and stop complaining, unless it's about AI.

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  • [–] 60 points 1 week ago (13 children)

    Juts pirate photoshop

    Fuck that, piracy gives them more legitimacy than they deserve. I will use gimp.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 week ago (12 children)

    I cannot understand anything from gimp. It's so counter intuitive, I even prefer ms paint over gimp. Sad, because I would love to have a proper alternative to PS.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    That's probably for three reasons:

    • some "interesting" UI decision in GIMP
    • force of habits
    • GIMP is not a replacement for photoshop

    Photoshop merges two very different things, editing and drawing. If you do only editing, GIMP is great. If you also do drawing/painting, GIMP is completely subpar, but Krita is fantastic.

    There's also other tools of course. But GIMP, by itself, is not close to be a remplacement for all of photoshop.

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    [–] 11 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    My GIMP is in the corner begging me to use it.

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    [–] 11 points 1 week ago

    If you use any AI generated software, whether it's to undermine a corp or not, you are continuing the problem.

    You think these companies don't have investments in the same AI that's making the 'open source' version? You dangle your wallet in front of them like bait while they steal the bread off your table. Except you don't have any bread because the field is a datacenter now and the water needed for irrigation has been diverted to it. And you conttributed. Zero tolerance for AI.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 week ago

    Is there a difference? Adobe uses plenty of shop.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 week ago

    For as evil and Hitler-coded as Adobe is, AI slop is so much worse.

    I want both to get nuked into glass.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 week ago

    I appreciate the sentiment, but I would not try it at this point - some people have said that it would straight up corrupt files when attempting to save, and I wouldn't risk it like this, even with backups.

    Maybe I should just give Darktable another chance.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Slop vs Adobe loses... This is torture!

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