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[–] 60 points 1 day ago

list of leaders across media, academia, and politics

headlined by Boris Johnson

i-cant

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  • [–] 8 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    So uh how many of these 5000 people are in the Epstein files?

    "Release the files + stop the genocide" seems like an overwhelmingly strong platform.

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  • [–] 35 points 1 day ago

    Imagining if the Nazis hadn't invaded France, but did everything else, and you had a big list of western leaders (headlined by Chamberlain ofc) rejecting the accusations against the Holocaust.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 day ago

    Boris Johnson

    lenin-dont-laugh

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  • [–] 24 points 1 day ago

    The whole 'don't accuse Israel of genocide because it fuels anti-semtism' argument infuriates me so much, WTF DO YOU MEAN? Jews might get hurt?? What ahout the fucking people of Palestine getting slaughtered??? FUCK YOU

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  • [–] 40 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Deborah Esther Lipstadt (born March 18, 1947) is an American historian and diplomat. She is the author of Denying the Holocaust (1993)

    fry

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  • [–] 28 points 1 day ago

    Finkelstein in 2000

    The motive behind the claim that there is widespread Holocaust denial is not hard to find. In a society saturated with the Holocaust, how else to justify yet more museums, books, curricula, films and programmes except by conjuring up the bogey of Holocaust denial?

    Thus Deborah Lipstadt's acclaimed book, Denying the Holocaust, as well as a contrived poll alleging pervasive Holocaust denial, were released just as the Washington Holocaust Museum opened. Denying the Holocaust is an updated version of the 'new anti-Semitism' tracts. To document widespread Holocaust denial, Lipstadt cites publications by — in Novick's words — 'a tiny band of cranks, kooks and misfits'. Her piece de resistance is Arthur Butz, the protagonist of her chapter 'Entering the mainstream'. Butz, who teaches electrical engineering at Northwestern University, published his book The Hoax of the Twentieth Century with a crackpot press; were it not for the likes of Lipstadt, no one would have heard of him

    The one truly mainstream holocaust denier is Bernard Lewis. A French court even convicted Lewis of denying genocide. But this was the Armenian genocide and Lewis is pro-Israel. Accordingly, this holocaust denial raises no hackles in the US; the fact that Turkey is an Israeli ally was a further extenuationg circumstance. Mention of the Armenian genocide is, therefore, taboo. Wiesel, Harvard Law School professor Alan Dershowitz and Rabbi Arthur Hertzberg withdrew from an international conference on genocide in Tel Aviv because the sponsors, against government urging, included sessions on the Armenian case. Acting at Israel's behest, the US Holocaust Council 'virtually effaced' mention of the Armenians in the Washington Holocaust Museum; and Jewish lobbyists in Congress blocked a day of remembrance for the Armenian genocide.

    To question a survivor's testimony, to denounce the role of Jewish collaborators, to suggest that Germans suffered during the bombing of Dresden or any state except Germany committed crimes in WWII is, according to Lipstadt, all evidence of Holocaust denial. But the most 'insidious' form of Holocaust denial, she suggests, is 'immoral equivalencies': that is, denying the uniqueness of the Holocaust. This argument has intriguing implications. Goldhagen argues that Serbian 'deeds' in Kosovo 'are, in their essence, different from those of Nazi Germany only in scale'. That would make Goldhagen 'in essence' a Holocaust denier. Across the political spectrum, Israeli commentators compared Serbia's 'deeds' in Kosovo with Israeli 'deeds' in 1948 against the Palestinians. Reckoning, then, by Goldhagen, Israel committed a holocaust. Not even Palestinians claim that any more.

    https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/03064220008536696

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  • [–] 61 points 2 days ago (4 children)

    One day we will all have been against this

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  • [–] 32 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    antelope-popcorn me, a few years from now

    morshupls mfs explaining how their signature under this doesn’t mean they weren’t always against it

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  • [–] 23 points 1 day ago*

    John Searle, Philosopher, UC Berkeley

    how long has this letter been around? because this shithead sexpest died in September 2025

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  • [–] 31 points 1 day ago

    Do they have any argument as to why or are they signing their names to a list of inaugural gulag inmates just for the love of the game?

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  • [–] 46 points 2 days ago

    What I love about these lists is that from the "leaders in entertainment" it's always like 5% artists and 95% producers and other parasites

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  • [–] 53 points 2 days ago

    notable friend of epstein steven pinker is definitely adding respectability and honor to this petition

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  • [–] 28 points 1 day ago

    it's funny because i don't remember dying but this sure seems an awful lot like hell

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  • [–] 40 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    Nice of them to make a list of people to send to the barbara-pit

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    Oh good, no one I like or respect is on it.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 day ago (6 children)

    Every single person on this list deserves to be forced to watch as their entire families are murdered in front of them.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 day ago (5 children)

    it's the only way they'll ever learn empathy it seems

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  • [–] 22 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    At this point I don't care if they learn anything, I just want them to suffer.

    If that makes me a bad person idgaf

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  • [–] 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    no, i feel you. i don't even really believe people like this can change anyway; if years of watching children be turned into mulch in 4k isn't enough nothing ever will be.

    i think wanting people who gleefully support genocide to suffer makes you a good person actually. or at least a normal one

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  • [–] 5 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    Thank you, I genuinely appreciate that. I don't like feeling this way

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    They do. The genociders and their cheerleaders, I mean. They don’t get the sting of discomfort when saying something ugly. They get glee out of it. They like how it transforms them, maybe a they get a rush out of it.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    Marci Liroff, Intimacy Coordinator

    excuse me?

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  • [–] 13 points 1 day ago

    Marci Liroff

    She's actually a casting director, but that's such a ghoul job title that of course she wants to hide behind another.

    Intimacy coordinators fall into two groups. It can be a bullshit job role in large productions with experienced actors, but they can be useful for indie productions and stuff involving inexperienced actors or young people.

    The job is to coordinate scenes with physical contact and establish consent, so nobody gets too uncomfortable. That might include someone slapping another person for real, or a scene with sexual overtones, or pretty much anywhere in between.

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  • [–] 35 points 2 days ago

    gracious of them to name themselves for nuremberg 2

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  • [–] 20 points 1 day ago

    This is what is called an Epic Self Tell move. Make the boycott list easy for us.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 day ago*

    Orly Marley, President, Tuff Gong Worldwide

    Ziggy Marley's wife

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  • [–] 15 points 1 day ago

    “Debra Messing and 1000s of others.”

    First off, fuck you, Grace. Secondly, that’s a shitty list of people no one cares about. But meow they’re on my list to avoid.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 day ago

    If they were right and had a compelling argument, just one would be enough.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

    https://www.creativecommunityforpeace.com/blog/2026/09/08/rejectlie/

    https://archive.is/QNFii (archived)

    more names

    Among the political and public-policy figures signing the letter are former UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson; former Canadian Minister of Justice and Attorney General Irwin Cotler; former UK Cabinet minister Nadhim Zahawi; former U.S. Secretary of Veterans Affairs Robert Wilkie; former senior U.S. diplomat Elliott Abrams; and former White House Council of Economic Advisers Chair Jason Furman. They are joined by prominent scholars, historians and intellectuals, including Harvard professor Steven Pinker; historian Benny Morris; historian Sir Niall Ferguson; Ambassador Deborah Lipstadt, University Distinguished Professor at Emory University and former U.S. Special Envoy to Monitor and Combat Antisemitism; former Yad Vashem Chief Historian Dina Porat; Yossi Klein Halevi, Author and Senior fellow at the Shalom Hartman Institute; Brandeis University Professor Emeritus Jonathan D. Sarna; historian Simon Sebag Montefiore; historians Jeffrey Herf and Norman Goda; UCLA professor Judea Pearl; author Ayaan Hirsi Ali; Professor of History and Judaic Studies at Binghamton University Jonathan Karp; and urban-warfare expert John Spencer.

    The letter also includes leading figures from film, television, music and media, among them Haim Saban; former Paramount Global Chair Shari Redstone; former Paramount Pictures CEO Sherry Lansing; Spyglass Media Group Chairman and CEO Gary Barber; Tribeca Enterprises co-founder Jane Rosenthal; producers Lawrence Bender and Susan Rovner; Fernando Szew, Head of Studio, Fox Entertainment Studios; Propagate Content executives Ben Silverman and Howard Owens; entertainment attorney and investor Kevin Yorn; Sharon Osbourne; actors Debra Messing, Jennifer Jason Leigh, Anthony Edwards, Mayim Bialik, Dame Maureen Lipman, Patricia Heaton and Jerry O’Connell; Mad Men creator Matthew Weiner; The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel creator Amy Sherman-Palladino; House creator David Shore; authors Dara Horn and Howard Jacobson; and music industry heavyweights Julie Greenwald, Bob Ezrin, John Ondrasik, David Draiman, Boy George, Paul Kemsely, and Billy Mann.

    The coalition also includes major Jewish organizations and religious and communal leaders. Signatories include the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) and the American Jewish Committee (AJC); Rabbi Warren Goldstein, Chief Rabbi of South Africa; William Daroff, CEO of the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations; Jonathan Greenblatt, CEO of ADL; Ted Deutch, CEO of AJC; Yonathan Arfi, President of Conseil Représentatif des Institutions juives de France (Crif); Rabbi Abraham Cooper of the Simon Wiesenthal Center; Alex Ryvchin, co-CEO of the Executive Council of Australian Jewry; and Soraya Deen, founder of the Muslim Women Speakers Movement.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 day ago

    Howard Jacobson

    The lead actor in a darkly hilarious Isaac Chotiner interview:

    spoiler[Chotiner] What should be the lead story on days when lots of children are killed?

    [Jacobson] I’m not talking about those days. This was every single night. I’m telling you I saw a dead baby every single night. You couldn’t look at a child, pictures of a child being killed every single night without thinking this is making my people, my kin, out to be child murderers. I’ve got two options for you. I can believe it’s true. O.K., it’s true. It’s true. That’s what we do. That’s what the Israelis, not us, but the Israelis, do. But we feel a kinship with the Israelis. That’s what they do. And so maybe there we are again. Maybe everything that they said about us in 1200 and 1300 was true. This is what the Jews do—kill children. I’m not going to buy it. I’m not going to buy it.

    [Chotiner] Howard, I think maybe we’re in a bit of a worrisome place if you see photos of dead children on television and your first thought is, They’re trying to make me, a Jew, hate my people.

    [Jacobson] You’ve twisted what I’ve said. That’s not my first thought. That’s not my first thought.

    [Chotiner] Second thought?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 day ago

    I assume Boris Johnson and Sir Niall Ferguson are here for their entertainment value.

    Shari Redstone? Yes, when I think "entertainment leader" my first thought is of the non-executive chairwoman of Paramount Global.

    And Benny Morris is on this list? Isn't he, like, the Niall Ferguson of Israel? Did they get Ben-Gvir to sign this, too?

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