What’s incredible is the number of commenters who don’t recognize obvious satire when they see it.
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Being an arborist is one of the most dangerous careers there are, this "passive income" guy would probably die in under a year.
If that post was sincere, I will eat my hat.
Pretty sure that account is satire
As a former groundsman for an arborist, I was shocked at how much of what seemed like a ludicrous sum just bled away to nothing. Guy earned the equivalent of maybe 20$ an hour after expenses. This was 20 years ago, so that was livable and more than double what someone at McDonalds could expect to make, but the actual income he brought home to the family was microscopic compared to the 1.2 million he took in before expenses.
What sort of expenses are there? Obviously equipment and paying wages, what else? Insurance?
Equipment is more than you think. Trucks with cherry pickers or spider lifts are a couple hundred grand each, plus they need to be maintained and replaced. And you probably need more than one. So now you're deep into 6-figure debt, and that means big monthly payments. That's before you even get to the costs to store the equipment safely, leasing an office, skilled workers, etc. And yes insurance and bonding, which, you can cause some major damage to multiple structures at once, so that's not cheap at all. How about marketing? Do some billboards or commercials? Tens of thousands more.
I've worked in commercial construction (which absolutely is a cash generating machine) and tree trimming services are like a mini version of that - you need a lot of upfront cash to make it happen and get a stable cash flow going before it's solid and profitable.
Completely missing overhead costs. We had a couple trees removed and it cost a fortune, or so I thought. But a crew of 6 showed up with 3 big trucks that probably cost 6-figures give or take. A chipper, a lift, and a tractor-trailer combo to haul off the trunks. All that has to be paid for, plus insurance, licensing, bonding, health care, payroll taxes, etc etc.
Everyone gets paid, of course, so they’re making money. But putting big bucks in the bank for the owner? Not likely.
The thing is, it's hard to discern where to stop... Could it be done safely with 1 guy and a truck? 2? Cherry picker? Did they need 6 guys, 3 trucks, and $300,000 worth of machinery to make it safe and easy? One costs 5x the other method, but it's just easier on them and not necessary at all in some cases.
My experience so far:
For the big company you pay a big chunk of money and they show up on time and are done in an hour or three. The tree(s) comes down fast, everything’s hauled off, chipped up, or ground down. They likely do several jobs in a day, so that’s where the money comes from. You know it’s 99% chance they are actually insured.
The small business consisting of a guy or two might get to you in a few weeks. He might or might not show up for the originally discussed time and day. They’ll be there for several hours, probably take a few breaks, and then they’ll need to drive off and retrieve their chipper truck. Maybe he’s insured. Maybe not. You’ve just got to go by his word. Grinding the stump might happen same day, or maybe a couple days later when they drag the stump grinder around to the last 5 jobs they did to finish them.
The big company will cost more. But not a whole lot more.
I agree with this guy but to the plumber trying to charge my mother 450 to re install the float valve assembly....fuck you man.
Yeah, funny how it works. Of course of you know that's like a fifteen dollar part from the hardware store.
Another cheap but expensive one when a capacitor goes in an HVAC. Super cheap quick and easy but an HVAC company will probably charge $500 if you called them.
Can save a ton of money just knowing a few basics on your plumbing, HVAC, and cars.
Don't they say not to take apart microwaves because the capacitor could shock and kill you? Is it the same with HVAC capacitors?
Yup.
Crt monitors are the stereotypical "surprise, you just pushed the dead button!” device, but microwaves too.
Their transformers are the bit that kills the most hobbiests though. Crazy high frequency high voltage transformer that chooses not to fuck around when you plop it in your project.
It's one of those things where it would be great if you could make an informed choice on whether you needed to hire a Master Plumber or save a bunch of money with Dave who has a pipe wrench and a youtube premium subscription. One of those things where if you knew enough to know whether you could get by with Dave, you're probably pretty close to doing it yourself.
If Dave were worth his salt - he would be capable of telling you this job is over his head, or if you legally need a professional.
That's part of being a handyman. If he can't do that then he's dangerous, and not worth any amount of money.
And you'd best pay him for coming to this conclusion....
Its not that the job is worth 450 dollars, its that his time is. If he's at your place fixing something easy, he's not somewhere else making that money he could make. The whole process of getting there and fixing it could take a couple hours.
you could probably do 2 trees at the same time. that's over a million dollars a year
"Lawrence, what would you do if you had a million dollars?"
"I'll tell you what I'd do, man. Two trees at the same time, man!"
I grew up with a wood burner for heat in the winter, so ever summer we'd go out and cut down a dead tree somewhere, cut into chunks that can be rolled or carried to a truck bed, hauled home, unloaded, and repeated until the entire tree was collected. That would mean probably 5-10 truck loads in a standard farm truck. With 3 non professionals running 2 chainsaws, that's 4+ hours not including drive time.
So while this is satire, for anyone who's not cut down a tree before, especially one with consequences if you fell it wrong, the pros make it look fast an easy.
The same with almost every work. We don't see years of expertise and background calculations behind every their action. Especially with good tools they are used too.
It's porn to watch a professional do what they are skilled for.
I have helped remove a tree before, it wasn't over a house or in a dangerous place. We sawed the limbs top down. fell the trunk, cut it into firewood sized rounds, split it. and dug out the stump by hand.
It was a 15' tall tree.
5 unskilled labor, 20+ hours.
If we had the right tools, it might have been a couple-hour job for that tiny tree.
It's definitely a job worth paying someone with the right equipment to do.
You want to know about the big money? Look into cutting down trees on other people's property.
Cut down a mature hardwood tree on your neighbour's lawn and it might cost you tens, even hundreds of thousands of dollars.
There's got to be a way to monetize that.
Pro tip: once you've secured the job just ask ChatGPT to do it. Same pay but more free time for you.
I like the little detail that they can't do math.
$1,750 per job assuming ten jobs per week is $17,500 per week of working. Assuming 4 weeks per month, that's $70,000 per month. Assuming 12 months of working per year, that's $840,000 per year. I'd be calling it "almost a million" at that point. I think the math works out, but the business prospects don't.
And that is the story of how I have my own personal chef and a team of arborists. Follow me for more advice.
Clearly fake - if it were real everyone would have clapped.
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