democratic socialism

private home and business ownership

ok so that's just capitalism, I hope you guys know that

Cool, I'll take the communism option please.

It sounds so much better even in their propaganda example.

Once again making me yearn for the day that a communist can just flippantly say shit about capitalism and then the institutions around them do not budge.

"Oh, you want capitalism? So you think it's good when people drop nuclear bombs?"

"I get why you'd want capitalism, but I just don't think it's worth it to spend the finite resources on Earth on genocide though."

"It's okay to not like your manager, it's another thing entirely to arbitrarily split up and duplicate work so that you can gamble on a better boss. If they're really that bad, you'll all vote them out."

"The workplace isn't just for gambling with money, you know. People work there and actually help society."

"Oh, the reclaimed forest is taking up real estate? You want the trees to start paying rent? You want the tree money to buy politicians?"

The smarmy, smug shit I would say if I were simply given with power instead of having to be evaluated by LOSERS.

The Communists disdain to conceal their views and aims. They openly declare that incentivizing individualism fails the working class and must be stopped.

• Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels in The Communist Manifesto, presumably

Really falls apart at the end there, just repeating 'no incentivizing the individual,' like when you ran out of things you knew about the topic in a high school essay

Capitalism can be reformed

The libs admit the DSA is little more than a radlib organization and so called "demsocs" are nothing more than turbolibs

now they should post home ownership rates between the commie countries and the sucdem/demsoc countries.

capitalism can be reformed to create social safety nets

This is such blatant redefining of "democratic socialism" into social democracy.

I've already depicted you as the column with "bad stuff" and me as the column with "good stuff".

WHERE are they pretending to get this information from? you can't just unquestionably shout unsourced shit with the justification 'idk lol vibes' and expect anyone to listen to you

Wow this communism thing looks pretty good, thank you MS Now!

Claiming Democratic "socialism" has "free and fair elections" is laughable after the shit we've witnessed the past decade. Shit's gonna backfire on them when they're laughed it off the room saying this stuff.

Notice how they never actually talk about whether these are actually effective strategies for improving society, it's entirely vibes based. You must not think about what works, only what feels good. Consume. Don't think.

So they're bargaining. Good sign.

The democratic socialism column disagrees with DSA's platform in some key ways. In particular, DSA explicitly states capitalism needs to be replaced with socialism.

Honestly, even this much is more acceptance that I could have imagined 10 years ago. 10 years from now? A table of Posadism vs. Stalinism.

"Authoritarian" is when billionaires have their wage-slaves taken away from them. I am very smart.

Given that authoritarian means "theres laws and they are enforced" which is true of both of these columns, yeah the communism sounds pretty good to me. Why let things like train tickets or computers be market set prices when they could be government set? And why would I want private home ownership? If youre in favor of private hone ownership and homes as investment, youre in favor of the social murder of homeless people. I dont want people to die, so homes cannot be investment or privately owned and sold/traded on a market. And yes, incentivizing individualism does harm the working class. Suck my taint landlordsscums and bootstrap believers, take a long walk off a short pier.

whatever heap the blue-no-matter-who libs need to huff to get thru the day instead of trying to drag their zionist losers to the general election

Same vibe

At least the last one is true

my favorite source for determining the qualitative differences between a communist or democratic socialist would have to be the Hampton Roads Naval Museum in Norfolk, Virginia

I mean, this is very much my experience with DSA-types. Its libs that want social safety nets. Still a nice thing to vote for, but absolutely not what I would call socialist.

Are they wrong though? "social democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism" and all that.

Democracy is a scam rooted by its core being used as an excuse for protecting neoliberalism, rentism and capitalism. Democracy denies (or ignores) reason exists and is based on conflict of interests between people sharing same land. What could go wrong?

We will be a lot better when such logic is understood by most people. Dont having democracy as an option is now a clear objective that i could not see some years ago