Impact of the Democratic primaries: MS Now has been cutting back and forth to this bland-looking chart comparing democratic socialism to communism

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chart comparing democratic socialism to communism
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[–] 51 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Capitalism can be reformed

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  • [–] 24 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    The Manifesto is like 40 pages and even has a very simple list. They really cannot read can they.

    Nevertheless, in most advanced countries, the following will be pretty generally applicable.

    1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
    2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
    3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
    4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
    5. Centralisation of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
    6. Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
    7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
    8. Equal liability of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
    9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country.
    10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production
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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)
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    I think even DSA is mostly on board with the 10 points

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Number 6 is problematic for me. The state can control transport routes, but not all transport ation in general. Also, there should be private comm options, with many frequecies available for private users like HAM folks. I also want a private option or two for phones and maybe a state-ran, open source OS for mobile that is privacy respecting.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    The state can control transport routes, but not all transport ation in general. Also, there should be private comm options, with many frequecies available for private users like HAM folks.

    You're still misunderstanding what is meant by "state" when Communists talk about it. The State is the collective self governance of the working class. The goal with the manifesto was to lay out a framework for using the existing power structures to destroy the monopolies and rule of capital.

    The existence of private options implies the existence of a state enforcing the private rights of that company.

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