An angry mob allegedly beat them. The police charged them. The municipality voted for one of the most severe anti-trans bathroom ordinances in the country.

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[–] 110 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They say they didn’t even punch back. Still, a plea deal may help them avoid jailtime. But Sanders and Rush aren’t signing.

USA is a cesspool of psychopathy. The country disgust me more every day.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    If it makes it any better Louisiana has always been a shithole even by American standards. My grandmother's great grandmother left Louisiana way back in the day because it was too much of a dumpster fire even then. For reference my grandmother was born in 1956.

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  • [–] 78 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Didn't see it mentioned, (and apologies if this isn't allowed) there's a GoFundMe link spreading around for assisting towards medical and legal fees.

    https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-trans-couple-recover-from-hate-crime

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  • [–] 54 points 2 months ago (15 children)

    It's infuriating that the mob just went on with their day.

    I do wonder what the right wing fanatics are going to say about gun control when someone shoots a would be lynch mob dead.

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  • [–] 37 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    Guarantee in this case it would be some BS about trans people being unhinged or the most likely mass shooters.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    Yep, nothing would make the Heritage foundation happier than a trans person defending themselves from mob violence with a firearm. Gives them an excuse to start provoking pogroms

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    Bitch what do you think they're doing? You think they can't just make some shit up when its time? Please cut this victim blaming the fuck out.

    Good behavior will not save you. Making them afraid might.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Are you replying to the right comment? You are agreeing with what they just said here.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    Read more carefully.

    cmbabul basically said, "trans people shouldn't defend themselves, as that would just embolden bigots." Primecf pointed out that bigots will just make shit up, as Republicans do when they pretend every mass shooter is trans.

    cmbabul is demonstrating behavior found among some allies, where they nominally support trans rights, but get really uncomfortable with the idea of a minority group defending itself with lethal violence. Minorities are meant to be protected in a parental way by the majority. Minorities are not meant to have agency of their own, certainly not in the realm of self-defense.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    That’s not at all what I said, they absolutely must arm and defend themselves, but it’s delusion to think the right will not use it as a cudgel to enact even more violence.

    Predicting the behavior of the enemy isn’t telling anyone they should or shouldn’t do anything.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago*

    Maybe that's the subtext, but I don't see how these two things can't be true at once :

    1. The Heritage Foundation will spin any resistance as an attack.
    2. Let's make them afraid.

    To me, both comments are compatible and don't have a necessary contradiction.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Where did I ever say they shouldn’t defend themselves? Understanding what will happen next doesn’t equate with advocating they stand down and let themselves die.

    Literally everyone that ain’t a fascist should arm themselves and use those arms when their safety is in peril. Especially marginalized people. And if a fucking lynch mob is after anyone they should mow them down.

    But that’s not gonna happen in a vacuum and there will at least be an attempt to utilize that as a catalyst for even more violence upon trans people. Please tell me what you think the reaction by the right will be when something like that inevitably occurs?

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    There’s so much it’s hard to keep track but wasn’t there already a recent story about a trans person who was iirc knocked down, pulled their gun, and was then charged with brandishing or something similar?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    Oh yeah all America needs is a mass shooting and they'll enshrine gun control.... Like if a school ever got shot up, it would be national gun control the next day. \s

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  • [–] 28 points 2 months ago (13 children)

    And that's why I started carrying a gun.

    I'm not trans, but I'm also not going to watch a crowd fucking beat a lady to death for peeing when I could do something about it. What are they gonna do, lock me up for defending a life? Try.

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  • [–] 37 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Yes they absolutely will. I'm not saying it wouldn't be the right thing to do and worthwhile, but they are hoping for that as an excuse to more radically escalate state violence.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    If the government can take away anyone's rights, they can take away everyone's rights.

    This is the line in the sand and people on our side don't get to decide if things will get violent. The fascists are going to get violent. The question is, are you getting on that first Trump Train to a concentration camp?

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  • [+] -20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (8 children)

    So now we have the original problem (in which no one was killed) and two or more people pointing guns at each other as well. Does that decrease or increase the chances of someone getting killed?

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Spoken like someone with privilege.

    People behave when there's a gun.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    Or someone else their gun out and just starts shooting because a gun was pointed at them. You can literally find road rage videos of that happening.

    People aren't as uniform in behavior or as smart as you're giving them credit for.

    But suddenly the rightwing don't carrry guns and are full of self-control? All because a guy in the comments section knows he'd be a bad ass?

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  • [+] -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    Billy bob doesn't like that you pointed a gun at his brother/cousin/sister/family/him. Slinks to the back of the crowd draws, bam bam bam.

    It takes seconds... But now people think it's the solution to the original situation where no one died?

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  • [–] 27 points 2 months ago

    Louisiana is a shithole state.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    This is so horrible. We should be evacuating LGBT people out of red states into blue states.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago

    Religious demographics of Louisiana, 74% Christian, 4% other religions, 21% unaffiliated, according to Pew Research. Wanna take bets that mob had a high percentage of Christians? Would beating a couple of transgenders in the park be new testament treatment, or old testament? I'm thinking the latter....

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  • Being anything other than married cousins in Louisiana gets you a daily beating.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    Come to Seattle. I will personally help anyone interested to find a place.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    This seems like the textbook definition of a hate crime and one of the perpetrators is the government.

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